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2018-08-05 14:12:04 UTC

Extremely badly in a sense

2018-08-05 14:13:00 UTC

If it was to at least explain what it means with a lot of shit, it needs at least 3 a4 pages on each thing

2018-08-05 14:13:28 UTC

Otherwise you could draw a very weird conclusion compared to the literature

2018-08-05 14:15:52 UTC

For example: We (communists) want to abolish the family. Now, we do not want to abolish it to remover families altogether, what we want to abolish is the family you (the bourgeois) know of.

People take that out of it's context considering it's time and try to apply it in today, in which case they get the impression that here should be no homeschooling and society is the parents

2018-08-05 14:17:01 UTC

Read other literature where they, Marx and Engels, talk about the family and what they want to change, they explain some fundamental differences between the working classes families and the bourgeois families

2018-08-05 14:17:06 UTC

Thats the issue if it takes thousands of pages.

2018-08-05 14:17:13 UTC

TO come to one conclusion

2018-08-05 14:17:25 UTC

And then crush it down to double digits

2018-08-05 14:17:48 UTC

and in short, most the points are that the labourers kids should have equall opportunity as the bourgeois kids

2018-08-05 14:17:58 UTC

Yes

2018-08-05 14:18:14 UTC

And considering that time period, the summary I gave wouldn't work

2018-08-05 14:19:12 UTC

Then how did it become what it is now?

2018-08-05 14:19:22 UTC

People forget that a different time period must be considered not only as to why something was worded the way it was, but also why it wasn't worded in a, in our time, better way

2018-08-05 14:19:29 UTC

How the hell did it turn from empowering the worker to subjugating the population

2018-08-05 14:19:37 UTC

As you said, ppl are lazy and just read the manifesto

2018-08-05 14:20:12 UTC

And then someone on top realises if he cherry picks pages from Das Kapital he can get ppl on his side to help him get more power

2018-08-05 14:21:08 UTC

Jesus its like the koran

2018-08-05 14:21:20 UTC

I've met communists that are like "I have only read some parts of Das Kapital" and coincidentally it os the parts in which the state is the hero and the companies are evil. Never a single part that praises parts of capitalism

2018-08-05 14:21:51 UTC

Or that distinguishes percieved capitalism from actual capitalism

2018-08-05 14:22:48 UTC

He does explain how the free market, on the contrary to how it is percieved, is separate from capitalism

2018-08-05 14:23:15 UTC

Have you heard of a commie that is part of a big commie group ever say anything like that?

2018-08-05 14:23:41 UTC

They are always against the free market because it is capitalistic (in a russian accent)

2018-08-05 14:24:18 UTC

Ive never met a commie like that. You know, one that knows that much. But then again, Im not gonna pretend I read Marx's work

2018-08-05 14:25:49 UTC

You consider me a commie?

2018-08-05 14:28:03 UTC

I didnt say that

2018-08-05 14:28:23 UTC

Like I said I never met a commie that knows that much.

2018-08-05 14:28:51 UTC

Much like I never met a christian who knows the bible beyond memorizing verses

2018-08-05 14:31:08 UTC

Oh, ok

2018-08-05 14:31:11 UTC

Just checking

2018-08-05 14:34:11 UTC

The people I find more knowledgable on relligion ive met are people who dont practice it as much

2018-08-05 14:34:21 UTC

I would probably consider myself a Marxist if it wasn't for those that already do. Don't wanna be associated with those shets

2018-08-05 14:34:22 UTC

As they are more likely to question it

2018-08-05 14:34:41 UTC

And Id considermyself ancap if it wernt for those who already do

2018-08-05 14:38:16 UTC

I'd say I am a decentralist

2018-08-05 15:41:00 UTC

To be honest, govt seizing the means of production does not scream decentralization

2018-08-05 15:45:53 UTC

I know

2018-08-05 15:46:43 UTC

The reason real communisms haven't existed is because there has always been a state. They want to rid of the state

2018-08-05 16:05:35 UTC

But so called communists want to first make the state own EVERYTHING, and then rid of the state. Good luck making someone with all that power give it up

2018-08-05 17:34:15 UTC

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/04/upshot/up-birth-age-gap.html

This article basically flat out says younger mothers are no less happy but "have greater gender inequality, the horror!" (As if it is bad that a woman wants to specialize in caring for a child) and that children are part to blame for the wage gap in a more round about way

2018-08-05 17:40:28 UTC

It also basically says "when money is not the goal, having a family is more important". As if that is a bad thing

2018-08-05 17:41:47 UTC

Which is true

2018-08-05 17:56:05 UTC

Yeah, kids are expensive. But like, since when is specializing and family bad things

2018-08-05 18:15:26 UTC

Since cultural cancer came

2018-08-05 18:18:11 UTC

When both nazis and commies agree on something, you should take it into concideration. Both of them thought that motherhood should be praised, unlike today when it is almost frowned upon. But they did think very differently about the family and other related stuff

2018-08-05 18:18:34 UTC

Well, with today I mean todays elite

2018-08-05 18:18:41 UTC

More or less

2018-08-05 19:08:44 UTC

i think society got too strict with its standards, forcing a pushback in the opposite direction. Now we are reaching the opposite extreme and the push back is building

2018-08-06 02:42:31 UTC

dave bautista punches nazis what a hero

2018-08-06 03:00:22 UTC

GoG3 is gonna tank because of politics. Perhaps not a bad thing because there is some pretty SJW movies coming down the pipes in the MCU

2018-08-06 03:20:16 UTC

That really sucks because I had a lot of hope for it. It was gonna be like three awesome movies in a row and how often is a sequal and threequal just as good?

2018-08-06 03:35:16 UTC

there is a chance the movie itself will turn out fine

2018-08-06 03:35:34 UTC

but i fear even if it is decent, it will get boycotted by all sides

2018-08-06 03:36:19 UTC

companies are too stupid to realize that playing the political game just means you put yourself in the crosshairs of both sides.

2018-08-06 03:36:36 UTC

You become a pawn to be used

2018-08-06 03:36:36 UTC

That is true

2018-08-06 03:37:00 UTC

and both sides will use that pawn until it is dried up

2018-08-06 03:37:05 UTC

The MCU is going to tank soon anyway with the start of Phase 4 if they're going to be going all in on the heroes that are tanking the conics side of things.

2018-08-06 03:37:17 UTC

^

2018-08-06 03:37:17 UTC

comics*

2018-08-06 03:37:36 UTC

because they lost all sense of reality

2018-08-06 03:38:09 UTC

"marvel is a life style brand"

2018-08-06 03:38:52 UTC

If you thought that the "outrage" at Ghostbusters or Oceans 8 was bad, you probably can't imagine what Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel is going to be like.

2018-08-06 03:39:45 UTC

I'm grasping for the sliver of hope that Captain Marvel will be an actual film and not an SJW shill

2018-08-06 03:40:32 UTC

Same

2018-08-06 03:41:10 UTC

they stand a very small chance of making some of these characters succeed, If they find a competent writer. There are lots of normies watching the movies who don't know of the bs from the comics side

2018-08-06 03:41:27 UTC

although i have little hope for iron heart, who is coming down the pipeline i heard

2018-08-06 03:42:07 UTC

I just don't know how they're going to gloss over that girl's origin and call to heroism without completely retconning it.

2018-08-06 03:42:36 UTC

Disney has a habit of retcon

2018-08-06 03:42:43 UTC

True

2018-08-06 03:43:35 UTC

Most of the Milennial generation grew up on completely reworked imaginings of various fairy tales by the company.

2018-08-06 03:44:22 UTC

I like Disney's 2D animated movies

2018-08-06 03:46:23 UTC

You know why these failed characters are coming over? Someone high up has looked at recent trends, didn't say "oh, these comics must be shit, let's fix this." They said "oh, no one reads comics anymore, movies are were they are now"

2018-08-06 03:46:46 UTC

And they think the loudest autistics are the actual readers.

2018-08-06 03:47:32 UTC

It's the same bs over and over and over again.

2018-08-06 03:48:44 UTC

Tip: They don't read comics. They just complain and "critique" them.

2018-08-06 03:49:08 UTC

To be fair, they had massive turnover on the Black Panther movie without it transitioning back into comics. They might think that the identity crap might actually fly there

2018-08-06 03:51:12 UTC

Political activist hate a medium, they ree on Twitter, out of touch business men go "OMG, everyone is gonna boycott us" and so they hire some of those political activist to "fix" the problem, and that is exactly what they do.... But since the medium is the problem, that means they kill it

2018-08-06 03:51:50 UTC

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, as the saying goes

2018-08-06 05:42:31 UTC

@N.Rondain Why would anyone be triggered over Captain Marvel?

2018-08-06 05:42:39 UTC

Captain marvel looks great

2018-08-06 05:44:44 UTC

Similar to the talk above about Ironheart, the initial concerns are mostly comics based speculation grounded in how the characters are currently being handled.

If the movies are good, then great. No harm.

2018-08-06 05:45:19 UTC

Well, they're adapting the original character instead of the Pakistani rip-off

2018-08-06 05:46:39 UTC

Brie Larson is a great actress

2018-08-06 05:47:15 UTC

But the directors haven't made any good movies so far...

2018-08-06 05:47:49 UTC

and having 7 writers isn't a good sign

2018-08-06 05:48:01 UTC

Yeah, that's the captain marvel movie they're making. I'm reserving judgement until I see a trailer.

There's been talk about making a Kamala movie or episodic series as well.

2018-08-06 05:48:10 UTC

Ack, seven writers?

2018-08-06 05:48:10 UTC

A bunch of the writers are producers...

2018-08-06 05:48:52 UTC

Anna Boden ... (screenplay by)
Liz Flahive ... (screenplay by)
Ryan Fleck ... (screenplay by)
Meg LeFauve ... (screenplay by)
Carly Mensch ... (screenplay by)
Nicole Perlman ... (screenplay by)
Geneva Robertson-Dworet ... (screenplay by)

2018-08-06 05:49:11 UTC

Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck are the directors as well

2018-08-06 05:50:12 UTC

Meg LeFauve was a writer on Inside out and The Good Dinosaur

2018-08-06 05:50:38 UTC

Liz Flahive is a producer

2018-08-06 05:51:00 UTC

Carly Mensch is also a producer

2018-08-06 05:51:41 UTC

Nicole Perlman was a writer on the Original Guardians of the galaxy

2018-08-06 05:52:20 UTC

And the only thing Geneva Robertson-Dworet was a writer on Tomb Raider...

2018-08-06 05:52:23 UTC

and nothing else

2018-08-06 05:53:49 UTC

Certainly sounds like a too many cooks situation, but I'll still see how it looks on trailer drop. I feel like there's too many people getting their jimmies pre-rustled over it.

2018-08-06 05:58:54 UTC

If a movie has more than 4 writers, there's a very high chance of it getting fucked up.

2018-08-06 06:54:31 UTC

6/7 female writing staff

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