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2018-08-06 21:28:47 UTC

wassnt there a thing where they where a cult or something?

2018-08-06 21:29:15 UTC

they were affiliated with NIXVM

2018-08-06 21:30:00 UTC

Wait i thought knode media was the one that measures the bis

2018-08-06 21:30:02 UTC

Bis

2018-08-06 21:30:04 UTC

Boas

2018-08-06 21:30:07 UTC

Bias

2018-08-06 21:30:11 UTC

wikipedia says a bunch of NXIVM arrests happened this year

2018-08-06 21:30:17 UTC

Ohh i c

2018-08-06 21:30:34 UTC

I don't know if it's related

2018-08-06 21:43:05 UTC

They suffered bad pr with that sex cult, so probably why they shut down

2018-08-06 21:43:20 UTC

Or maybe they got hit by EU regs or something

2018-08-06 21:44:44 UTC

hello.
anarcho-capitalist here.
been following tims content since back when i sided with occupy wall street in 2012.
been drifting a lot on the political spectrum since then.

2018-08-06 21:45:39 UTC

welcome

2018-08-06 21:45:55 UTC

I think many people have been on a political rollercoaster since then

2018-08-06 21:46:38 UTC

thanks
yeah i bet. things been going completely insane since at least 2015

2018-08-06 21:49:09 UTC

Always welcome an an-cap. Then again I'd welcome an an-com if they would be civil and actually try and debate me.

2018-08-06 21:49:46 UTC

they must exist...somewhere...

2018-08-06 21:49:57 UTC

more people on the left would be nice to see here, but We're All Nazis so that won't happen

2018-08-06 21:50:26 UTC

you can be left of bernie sanders and be a nazi

2018-08-06 21:50:53 UTC

never forget that Bernie Sanders Is Not Left

2018-08-06 21:51:20 UTC

we wuz kangz

2018-08-06 21:51:40 UTC

the political compass is all a big conspiracy see, the **actual** center is the left edge of the compass, so if you're on the compass at all you're actually right-wing

2018-08-06 21:51:47 UTC

@NativeInterface they exist.... If you can isolated and befriend them. Then keep your talks private.

2018-08-06 21:51:57 UTC

heh

2018-08-06 21:52:12 UTC

The right/center is not nearly as afriad or being literally beaten as the left these days

2018-08-06 21:52:22 UTC

It is very much a cult, and it's sad to see.

2018-08-06 21:52:47 UTC

These people literally keep themselves in fear, and it's their own comrads that keep them afriad.

2018-08-06 21:54:56 UTC

They had freedom from religious oppression for a while... Then they won some good battles and become a religion

2018-08-06 21:55:23 UTC

question is, are the ones willing to talk and are open minded, would they remain an-com?

2018-08-06 21:56:10 UTC

it feels elitist thinking like that, but i don't know what else to think

2018-08-06 21:57:07 UTC

i want to treat their views with respect

2018-08-06 21:57:49 UTC

but i feel they are making it very difficult

2018-08-06 22:01:49 UTC

Idk, I mean, I managed to turn an an-cap away from it a bit. Some of the more open minded in an an-cap server I were not full on hardcore.

2018-08-06 22:03:20 UTC

well to be fair, nobody is interested in changing their opinion, much less their world view

2018-08-06 22:03:39 UTC

unless they already arent really happy with their own opinion

2018-08-06 22:08:28 UTC

There is a difference between changing a world view, and making them fill in the gaps in their world view that make then realize they are not what they think they were.

2018-08-06 22:08:44 UTC

Which is basically how I flipped the one an-cap

2018-08-06 22:09:16 UTC

so what did you tell him?

2018-08-06 22:09:28 UTC

that Mexico is an-cap paradise

2018-08-06 22:10:33 UTC

maybe thats why jeff berwick moved there

2018-08-06 22:11:07 UTC

he certainly feels more free there

2018-08-06 22:12:13 UTC

lol he even hosts anarchapulco there

2018-08-06 22:12:16 UTC

it makes sense

2018-08-06 22:13:49 UTC

you cant drink water tho

2018-08-06 22:13:51 UTC

lol

2018-08-06 22:14:13 UTC

shit i think roger ver got better idea. st kitts > mexico

2018-08-06 22:14:15 UTC

seems like half the people i speak to in the us don't trink their tap water

2018-08-06 22:14:33 UTC

tap water is good here

2018-08-06 22:14:47 UTC

@Tohob not tru bro

2018-08-06 22:14:56 UTC

i took it and recorded it im super center

2018-08-06 22:15:14 UTC

S U P E R center

2018-08-06 22:15:27 UTC

radical centrism

2018-08-06 22:15:30 UTC

Naw, just asked him what stops an an-cap world from just being tribalism and then just repeating human history

2018-08-06 22:15:30 UTC

check it holmes

2018-08-06 22:15:56 UTC

i bet yer one 'er them `radical centrist secular jihadist extremists`

2018-08-06 22:16:09 UTC

tribalism in what way?

2018-08-06 22:16:26 UTC

@Tohob WE GUN B KANGZ

2018-08-06 22:16:31 UTC

I am a radical centrist

2018-08-06 22:16:48 UTC

raaaaaaaaaadical

2018-08-06 22:18:24 UTC

well, we are tribal by nature

2018-08-06 22:18:54 UTC

now, i assume freedom of association is still a core tenant

2018-08-06 22:18:58 UTC

"inhabits the authoritarian half of the political compass"

2018-08-06 22:19:08 UTC

.05

2018-08-06 22:19:08 UTC

checkmate

2018-08-06 22:19:17 UTC

you're 0.05% authoritarian, you nazi

2018-08-06 22:19:18 UTC

WTF DID YOU CALL ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

2018-08-06 22:19:25 UTC

i think a certain type of tribalism is the whole point. the aim is to have a polycentric framework of law subject to free market competition, so you don't have a monopoly on law by a group of elites.

2018-08-06 22:19:38 UTC

@Tohob keep that on the dee el people here might ostracize me

2018-08-06 22:20:01 UTC

well, what keeps us there?

2018-08-06 22:20:20 UTC

at one point, most of humanity was tribal

2018-08-06 22:20:24 UTC

how did we get to here?

2018-08-06 22:20:49 UTC

culture. politics and government or other organizations of society is downstream from culture.

2018-08-06 22:20:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/476152716805013514/political_scale.png

2018-08-06 22:20:54 UTC

we stopped killing people

2018-08-06 22:21:23 UTC

can there be more than one culture along side the an-cap one

2018-08-06 22:21:28 UTC

say an an-com one?

2018-08-06 22:22:00 UTC

yup, but ancaps disagree. ancaps has split up into two camps, voluntaryists and hoppean ancaps.

2018-08-06 22:22:16 UTC

hmm, haven't heard this difference

2018-08-06 22:22:32 UTC

im a voluntaryist so i support the right for communists to build a commune as long as its voluntary participation.

2018-08-06 22:22:55 UTC

What if the communes want to fight eachother?

2018-08-06 22:23:10 UTC

but i dont think hoppean ancaps would support it, since they think it would destroy the culture needed to have a free society, i think. i may be getting it wrong.

2018-08-06 22:24:00 UTC

i think they might be on to something in that respect because i don't see an-cap surviving long unless its world wide nearly overnight

2018-08-06 22:24:21 UTC

well if they are fighting they are initiating aggression. the rest of us could just not get involved, or we could help with the defense of one side if they request it, i suppose.

2018-08-06 22:24:30 UTC

so, what happens when one culture decides to invade another by force?

2018-08-06 22:25:10 UTC

you mean like ..... MUSLIMS

2018-08-06 22:25:23 UTC

lmao

2018-08-06 22:25:37 UTC

more like any asshat who gets greedy

2018-08-06 22:25:43 UTC

there are always plenty of those

2018-08-06 22:25:54 UTC

just look at sweeden , UK and canada

2018-08-06 22:25:59 UTC

that's wtf happens

2018-08-06 22:26:02 UTC

what are they specifically invading?

2018-08-06 22:26:12 UTC

culture

2018-08-06 22:26:14 UTC

i think the crusades i think fit better

2018-08-06 22:26:26 UTC

well they aren't doing it forcefully

2018-08-06 22:26:33 UTC

in an ancap society there would only be private property basically, we wouldnt have any collectivist system or land to defend

2018-08-06 22:26:55 UTC

@NativeInterface whatever reason. there is usually reason but sometimes is resources, other times its personal feuds, sometimes its just because they can.

2018-08-06 22:27:13 UTC

how can you have private property but no land to defend?

2018-08-06 22:27:22 UTC

you have at least 1 plot of land

2018-08-06 22:27:41 UTC

unless you property doesn't count land

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