Message from @Grenade123

Discord ID: 476153625199116299


2018-08-06 22:19:08 UTC  

checkmate

2018-08-06 22:19:17 UTC  

you're 0.05% authoritarian, you nazi

2018-08-06 22:19:18 UTC  

WTF DID YOU CALL ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

2018-08-06 22:19:25 UTC  

i think a certain type of tribalism is the whole point. the aim is to have a polycentric framework of law subject to free market competition, so you don't have a monopoly on law by a group of elites.

2018-08-06 22:19:38 UTC  

@Tohob keep that on the dee el people here might ostracize me

2018-08-06 22:20:01 UTC  

well, what keeps us there?

2018-08-06 22:20:20 UTC  

at one point, most of humanity was tribal

2018-08-06 22:20:24 UTC  

how did we get to here?

2018-08-06 22:20:49 UTC  

culture. politics and government or other organizations of society is downstream from culture.

2018-08-06 22:20:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/476152716805013514/political_scale.png

2018-08-06 22:20:54 UTC  

we stopped killing people

2018-08-06 22:21:23 UTC  

can there be more than one culture along side the an-cap one

2018-08-06 22:21:28 UTC  

say an an-com one?

2018-08-06 22:22:00 UTC  

yup, but ancaps disagree. ancaps has split up into two camps, voluntaryists and hoppean ancaps.

2018-08-06 22:22:16 UTC  

hmm, haven't heard this difference

2018-08-06 22:22:32 UTC  

im a voluntaryist so i support the right for communists to build a commune as long as its voluntary participation.

2018-08-06 22:22:55 UTC  

What if the communes want to fight eachother?

2018-08-06 22:23:10 UTC  

but i dont think hoppean ancaps would support it, since they think it would destroy the culture needed to have a free society, i think. i may be getting it wrong.

2018-08-06 22:24:00 UTC  

i think they might be on to something in that respect because i don't see an-cap surviving long unless its world wide nearly overnight

2018-08-06 22:24:21 UTC  

well if they are fighting they are initiating aggression. the rest of us could just not get involved, or we could help with the defense of one side if they request it, i suppose.

2018-08-06 22:24:30 UTC  

so, what happens when one culture decides to invade another by force?

2018-08-06 22:25:10 UTC  

you mean like ..... MUSLIMS

2018-08-06 22:25:23 UTC  

lmao

2018-08-06 22:25:37 UTC  

more like any asshat who gets greedy

2018-08-06 22:25:43 UTC  

there are always plenty of those

2018-08-06 22:25:54 UTC  

just look at sweeden , UK and canada

2018-08-06 22:25:59 UTC  

that's wtf happens

2018-08-06 22:26:02 UTC  

what are they specifically invading?

2018-08-06 22:26:12 UTC  

culture

2018-08-06 22:26:14 UTC  

i think the crusades i think fit better

2018-08-06 22:26:26 UTC  

well they aren't doing it forcefully

2018-08-06 22:26:33 UTC  

in an ancap society there would only be private property basically, we wouldnt have any collectivist system or land to defend

2018-08-06 22:26:55 UTC  

@NativeInterface whatever reason. there is usually reason but sometimes is resources, other times its personal feuds, sometimes its just because they can.

2018-08-06 22:27:13 UTC  

how can you have private property but no land to defend?

2018-08-06 22:27:22 UTC  

you have at least 1 plot of land

2018-08-06 22:27:41 UTC  

unless you property doesn't count land

2018-08-06 22:28:07 UTC  

i mean you wouldnt be pushing people away from some nation border

2018-08-06 22:28:21 UTC  

under sharia law women is property right ?

2018-08-06 22:29:04 UTC  

i have the skeleton of an argument that a homestead can be nation, but that is for a different time, and not fleshed out at the moment

2018-08-06 22:29:11 UTC  

but you have something to defend

2018-08-06 22:29:17 UTC  

i.e your property