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they think internet is a human right. that a car is a human right, a cellphone is a human right. a job is a human right.
we are all managers Feather, OF OUR OWN DAMN LIVES
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how bout I manage you and you manage me
but when you get down to needs, which is all they want met. there are only 3 needs. food water shelter.
no deal
But i'll Massage you ๐
Housing is a human right
deal
give or take cloths or medicine
@Grenade123 In short "Anything my parents paid for me is a human right"
no, wol. "under our system other people would be okay with being garbagemen despite being paid the same as me because i put the same amount of hours in"
@Dan V technically shelter is a human need, so they are not too far off base with wanting it to be a right
Internet is a human right
well yes Falko
Because they believe in the rule of 10 hours of being an artist is equal to 10 hours of being a garbageman
tbh, ๐ค considering the "art" these people put out, I can see the resemblence
expose to the elements is not exactly conducive to living long
and by long, i mean over a year
if anything, garbagemen should be paid more than artists in socialism ๐ค atleast garbagemen are productive in that sense
even the homeless find shelter
@Grenade123 yeah but you need someone to build the house/shelter. Do you force people to build those shelters? What if there's no more land?
i said not too far off
and what standard of housing?
didn't say perfect
and what if there is no more land
use boats
Everyone gets the minimum housing,
If you want more, you can add it
But when you add it, you then are "richer" than others, so must share that new part of your house with everyone
like QM2 ๐
that is a problem if you don't like the idea of throwing someone out into the cold in winter knowing full well they will most likely die
people tend to see that as akin to murder sometimes
pesky morals
But no one is stopping you from housing that person yourself
One time, I crushed a crab with my fist on the beach.
well, depends. Sometimes there is
homeless shelter are already a thing, why not expand that and charity, why make gov do it though. Not to mention many of the people not going to shelter choose not to
I'm late to this conversation but
@Grenade123 how so? Genuinely curious
Are you advocating for growing government ANYTHING?
Have you ever been to the DMV?
we discussing the communism
I can honestly say that I have never been to the Department of Motor Vehicles
Commies?!
People don't grasp that the government has no funding aside from taxes, to them its just "Government has money, let them take care of the homeless, and if they need more money, well theres rich people who own 99% who you can get it from"
LEMME AT EM
@Dan V i said sometimes. city ordinances, property owners. IF you fully own the land, then not really anyone.
**LEMME AT EM**
but, do you really own your land in any place you need to pay taxes?
to be honest, that is a different argument. @ExceptionalFeather. One over who is better at providing for the need. and i would agree charity does it better
ultimately you can only own rights to land
Nah, I guess not. You rent the land from the government by paying taxes
The government can go POUND SAND, that's my motto.
I tell government to cut the malarky at every opportunity.
hell, the police keep you from housing fugitives no?
@Grenade123 I thought we were discussing commies and shelter as a human right though
plant a flag and claim land under your sovereignty, then be prepared to defend it from the country you just conquered the soil from ๐
like i said, they are not too far off base with it being close to a right. where they are off base, is who is better at providing it
ah
Yeah but a criminal would lose some rights
You know...like prisoners
ah.... but who says you are criminal?
I think we're nitpicking here
A jury of your peers
do they?
i don't think the federal government is even close to being my peer.
I think that former prisoners should not have their rights take away
most of my peers think pot is mostly fine
if the fed is my peer,
The fed should be in jail ๐
you can be a felon and let free but can't vote that does not make sense to me
Everyone thinks pot is mostly fine
i think this is getting off topic a bit.
Okay but you're arguing bad laws now. A jury of your peers is not the government. A jury in a trial is not made up of government employees
@Grenade123 AGREED lmao
Pot is a sin!
Unless i get to smoke it myself ๐
Sinner
technically communists are not extremely wrong, at least marxist anyway, from what i said. Technically there is no state, the force comes from the community, not a central authority. so charity would basically be the only way to do things and would be socially mandated. like any social norms we have today.
sure, the difference I guess is volunteerism
YOU'VE GOT RED ON YOU, COMMIE
i love him just super-manning in
Lmao holy shit. I've never seen that
The glasses SNAP.
Into like 5 pieces.
like knocking himself out
What technique.
Instant dead
socialist quality
"if this knife doesn't kill you, the blunt force trama of my body will"
Break-stab speed?
Who is that? The guy who's getting impaled
he's a goner
Inejiro Asanuma
AKA Commie Bastard
@Grenade123
In communism there's always some sort of central power mandating and controlling things, isn't that what a state is?
marx had a stateless society
hence the "marxist" part
if you go by marx, everything "communist" is just socialist, the step before communism.
hence where the "that wasn't real communism" argument comes from
also the whole "open borders/stateless society" piece
It has no hands! ๐ฑ
that is, if you cherry pick and overlook other parts of his ramblings
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