@Dan V i said sometimes. city ordinances, property owners. IF you fully own the land, then not really anyone.

**LEMME AT EM**

but, do you really own your land in any place you need to pay taxes?

to be honest, that is a different argument. @ExceptionalFeather. One over who is better at providing for the need. and i would agree charity does it better

ultimately you can only own rights to land

Nah, I guess not. You rent the land from the government by paying taxes

The government can go POUND SAND, that's my motto.

I tell government to cut the malarky at every opportunity.

hell, the police keep you from housing fugitives no?

@Grenade123 I thought we were discussing commies and shelter as a human right though

plant a flag and claim land under your sovereignty, then be prepared to defend it from the country you just conquered the soil from 😉

like i said, they are not too far off base with it being close to a right. where they are off base, is who is better at providing it

ah

Yeah but a criminal would lose some rights

You know...like prisoners

ah.... but who says you are criminal?

I think we're nitpicking here

A jury of your peers

do they?

i don't think the federal government is even close to being my peer.

I think that former prisoners should not have their rights take away

most of my peers think pot is mostly fine

if the fed is my peer,

The fed should be in jail 😄

you can be a felon and let free but can't vote that does not make sense to me

Everyone thinks pot is mostly fine

i think this is getting off topic a bit.

Okay but you're arguing bad laws now. A jury of your peers is not the government. A jury in a trial is not made up of government employees

@Grenade123 AGREED lmao

Pot is a sin!

Unless i get to smoke it myself 😉

Sinner

technically communists are not extremely wrong, at least marxist anyway, from what i said. Technically there is no state, the force comes from the community, not a central authority. so charity would basically be the only way to do things and would be socially mandated. like any social norms we have today.

sure, the difference I guess is volunteerism

YOU'VE GOT RED ON YOU, COMMIE

i love him just super-manning in

Lmao holy shit. I've never seen that

The glasses SNAP.

Into like 5 pieces.

like knocking himself out

What technique.