I'm waiting for @Timcast to do an expose on the survey takers. I'm signed up to a few and if you answer outside the narrative they exclude you out of the survey.

Have these people never heard of the boy who cried wolf?!

how do u mean

I changed my answer woman in work (rather than man) that was left leaning (rather than right leaning) and suddenly the same survey wanted my opinion

Yougov and a few others all screen the people taking the surveys

now thats the investagative journalism I wanna see

thats fairly common for research in which the survey has to match the outcome

As opposed to having research where you get the outcome by examining surveys

surveys and polls are such fucking shit
they are only being used to convince you of something xD

indeed

not even that

you are both correct yet most people take them as gospel truth

but surveys and polls aren't reliable

i would think that you would want a mixed group of people partaking

they are manipulated data but presented as facts

and not having your survey overran by either side

you would want an as random as possible group of people

but then that can be manipulated as well ofc

people can lie lol

If i were to hold a survey asking 1000 people about like wage / rent in the center of Los Angeles

I'll get different results than if i'd go ask 1000 people across all 50 states

thats why u need to look at aggregates not single surveys

even the aggregates are wrong

one asked about my opinion on brexit - I'm pro so was excluded. retook and said unsure got to do the whole thing. put against to check it and also got to do the whole thing

well theres a good reason for that

if you were pro-brexit, you're a bot, so can't be expected to answer the other questions

hahaha

true that

but if you're unsure/against, then you're a human being so they can ask you more

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yeah idk

I found this meEm

i dont take them as gospel

rather as possible indicators

Polls and surbeys are only reliable if you stay within the boundries, even in your conclusion

example of a few days ago

the questions are super leading too

"Sociliasts are on the rise in (my city)"

eventual voting comes around

their scores were never lower in history

i expected that

but i can always be wrong

the BBC hosts open communists and presents them as reasonable.

but i visit a lot of people and workfloors so you get to see a lot of different ppl

to spread the word

yeah but also

You can't expect people to be honest

like how Jes apparently lied about his sex / views

if in 2016

😃

my employer went bust yesterday, I gotta get paid somehow

its harder to lie about that in person in a casual conversation

you'd ask who americans would vote for, the average person would know "If i say Trump, i'll get in trouble" so you'll have people say either "I dunno" or "hillary"

Then you get polls saying 95% Hillary, 3% undecided, 2% Trump

Meanwhile, for all you know, NONE of the people you asked would vote hillary, cuz you're smackdab in the center of Alabama

indeed

so do you think people are savvy to this then?

I find people can be led by survey data when the MSM is the one presenting it

I think theres a good chunk that are

Its a mix

like bots, npc's and normies?

:P)_

😛

you'll have commoners who are asked and lie

And you'll have self-absorbed Arrogant news people go "Well, we have 80% for hillary, 20% Trump, but since people probably will see how racist Trump is, that will be 85% hillary and 15% Trump, cuz we're so smart and totally not racist at all"

fair

"Also Kanye is a bad negro who ate wrong stuff and is an uncle tom, cuz we're not racist and we then can see how racist he is"

mate, i still cant get over that

that the msm actually went there

good job Kanye is all about love

cause I'd be PISSED if I got treated like that

thats cuz Kanye knows how to play it

and with his resorces he could make life really difficult for them

If he's gonna play nice, you'll definately have people that go

"Ey, MSM, wtf, thats so racist, he's just trying to be nice"

yeah, CNN probably just pushed 1 mil+ centerists towards the right

can't say for the numbers, but they'll definately have pushed some

and any 1 voter they push away is 2 votes technically 😉

true that

-1 for the dems, +1 for reps

also I think kanye just guarenteed his next album is going plat

hah

he's gonna be the Black Jesus to conservatives now

yeah

plenty of people will buy it just to support him

pretty funny

so am i right in thinking its normal at the midterms for control to shift?

as in more often than not?

Usually the party that didn't win in the elections gains in the midterms.

So yes.

like normally or its almost always the case?

I think almost always.

so itd be a huge upset if the rep's held on to the house and senate then

Yup

It would show just how bad the dems are.

it wouldnt surprise me tho

it would be hillarious

progressive/left people would freak out

theyre doing virtually everything they can in front of the public at large to show how bad they actually are

I expect the dems to have big losses.

and the public is disagreeing with them on the large lines

they're so blinded by their arrogance, and actually believe their own lies and bull

they're literally tearing themselves appart

so (not to be preachy) I take it your all telling peoples to vote?

yes, you guys go vote