i'm not American so i can't 😄

fair

I don't live in the US but my family voted already. Besides that don't have anyone to tell to vote.

but i have a girl friend in america who's gonna vote republican 😛

i think complacency is gonna be the enemy of the republicans

yes

they mostly have lives and jobs to go to lol

thats why Trump keeps doing the campaigning

not buzzfeed bloggers

to remind people to get out and vote!

but thats the case for every party being in power for too long

Donno. I think after the 2016 elections republicans can easily see how much there is to lose if we don't vote.

Its not that reps don't worry,

Its that they might think "pff we got this, i dont have to go"

i actually dont think they will

mostly thanks to the media

true

I think we got this but I voted because you never know.

you mean they will or wont vote Trit?

theyre doing a great job getting republicans to vote

the media is pushing back harder, and its causing Reps to get angry

they will vote

the media isnt allowing them to be complacent

theyre constantly rubbing shit in peoples faces that people disagree with

If we don't vote the US will turn European or socialist.

is there a difference?

barly

barely

if you subtract eastern europe and the UK its all socialist

UK is also socialist

and the UK is almost there

meh not really here tho jes

the greens are the only socialist party that got any votes and gained

i get to vote next week, unless bureaucracy screws me over

tritium you mean the UK?

no belgium

ahh

Belgium is effectively socialist too

just like France, Germany and Netherlands

and UK

wat

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Except we are not

good luck Belgium getting out of the EU, its your national industry now

by socialist, do you mean capitalist with healthcare?

social policies

not socialist

yet

the UK that is

It wont happen here

but we're only one election away from it

as confirmed once again sundays election

explain to me the difference,
"The state takes the products away from the capitalist/companies, and gives it to the rest of the people"

and

"The state takes the money away from the capitalists/companies, and gives it to the rest of the people, so they can buy that product"

the socialists got booted out everywhere except 3 places

the end-difference that is

the tories seem to be doing their best to lose
but i still can't see corbyn getting into power

and even if he does, he won't know what to do with it

Dr Wol it is that that people are sick of

@shinsoo I know right? its like they are deliberatly trying to lose

people are sick of government taking ridiculous amounts of money from everyone

yeah, definitely seems like it

and subsidizing bullshit

theyre not sick of the social policies

I'll admit, the west of Europe isn't Hard-on "Everyone gets equal salary, vacation and care" socialist like the "SOCIALIST socialists" want

again, we're getting close

but west europe is effectively socialist in the sense that its massive taxes, to give subsidies to the poor, so they can then buy the products

maybe they'll do better once May is out
but i haven't heard of any convincing candidates yet

Jacob Rees Mogg

But that is not whats happening here wol

wew

thats the only way I vote tory

whats happening here is massive taxes

Social programs by themselves aren't socialist

and government subsidizing companies to hire people

not people themselves

they somtimes pay up to half someones salary so they would hire people

its a total failure

France is the most socialist country. everyone else is degrees

its pretty much the same thing, the wealthy pay for someone elses extra money which they didn't earn, so they can buy the same things taht the wealthy actually worked for

when the problem is the cost, imposed by government, to hire people

France is not necessarily a socialist country

well its not the same thing wol

the rich arent paying

no its not fully, its the closest though

the working class, the entrepeneurs are paying

It's more socialist than other countries

everyone is paying

Doesn't make it socialist tho

indeed Swed

but those above the mean, don't benefit from it, those below it do

Scandinavia isn't socialist either

France has very strong labour protections, but Macron is dismantling them <:jeb:376461916509306880>

yea but by far the biggest payers are entrepeneurs and working class people

in my country that is a fact

there've been pretty much nonstop riots since he got elected

And btw people here arent saying "the rich must pay up"

Macron is doing surprisingly sensible things

Our government gives money to media corporations

I haven't done enough research into the tax system of semi-france so i can't argue 😛 i'll have to take your word for it

theyre saying government needs to cut taxes because its becoming absurd

theyre laying the problem with government not rich people