no

How can you promote smaller, more local government while still being in a federal union?

but i still think we shouldn't give up on banning abortions, it's a scourge on the society

@Inquisition ?

great now were back to square one

That's what the country did for practically a hundred years

Your country. 😛

it was that way it was until 1950's

local governments Everywhere matter a lot in most people's lives whether they realize or not

but look, for various reasons people here cant stand our government and think theyre completely disconnected from the public.
But at the same time they seem to think that way bigger much further away government (EU) will solve all our problems.
Its very weird

Muh womens rights muh murder etc

I'm not super up on US political history.

@Inquisition our federal government wasn't built to do most of the shit it does now

allow free abortions and free sterilization procedures for single left leaning women so they can forever be promiscuous and never reproduce

thats because the government is an arcane insitution

how is Belgium still a country

certainly not imo

the average person has no idea how it functions

let France and Netherlands annex you

>netherlands

@Blackhawk342 yeah but the average person in any country doesn't actually understand how their gov works

go reclaim some more water you swamp germans

lol swamp germans

lol

in most Western Countries, US, UK, Germany.. local Govt's matter just as much if not more to most people than the federal government

Municipal local?

in US, if you're able to control city, district level, district Court and school board Politics, you have a lot of power

I don't know about that, in Canada at least.

governors trend Republican don't they?

this is the stuff for what Leftists organize and everybody else doesn't

Once the elections are over, nobody thinks about municipal governments

@AdorableStormtrooper you're in Indonesia, right? Did you felt the earthquake just now?

duh, why do you think they wanted to let illegals vote for school board?

@Der Kommissar I'm in Singapore m8, you good?

@Der Kommissar we keep telling you to stop sitting on the vibrator

From there it becomes "shouldnt they have the right to vote in other district elections?"

Then shortly after "shouldnt they have a voice in the state government?"

^

@AdorableStormtrooper all good in my city, but idk about where the epicenter is

Followed by "they need to be able to have a say in the national government, its the same reason for the american revolution"

@Der Kommissar you in Java?

Yep

The epicenter is in Bali, it seems

I hope my friends there is safe

@Blackhawk342 And this is why federalism is so essential.

When California gives illegal aliens the franchise, it can only be allowed to affect two senate seats.

(and the electoral footprint of California)

This local school board and district judge and city politics is really what dissident movements on the right and center should be focusing on

Californians like to think they're ahead of the country by a decade

I really really dont want to live in california

nobody will care that much about it to focus the national media and call y'all Nazis

theyll do it anyway

Some Californians are ahead of the country by a decade, it's just they don't realize that they are so because the _actual_ progress moved faster than the state could suppress it.

People have been calling the republicans nazis since 2006

it's much harder though

and people don't care as much after a few times

thats the point of the media exhaustion strategy trumps doing

im a pretty great nazi tbh

keep saying and doing outrageous things and eventually no one will care

The state's recent moves imply that they are ready to suppress actual progress (in the economy and private lives of Californians) faster than Californians can make their lives better.

the state of california has been slowly destroying their own economy over years

It is now illegal in California for a man to incorporate a company alone, period.

They'll all move to Texas when Texas goes blue

and, shocker, the only people doing well are executives and celebs

everyone else is getting put below the line to be able to live in even a one bedroom apartment. Of course that depends on where you are in Cali apparently

@AdorableStormtrooper based on latest polling, it aint gonna go blue this time

well eventually

beto fell further behind Cruz

which he fuckin should

@AdorableStormtrooper Texas is somewhat stayed against this kind of nonsense, due to their unique structure.

@AdorableStormtrooper They defer a _lot_ to the counties.

California used to be very Republican too before the Demographic Shift, idk if it will be different with Texas, we can hope i suppose

Voter ID would help a lot.

And a citizenship question on the census.

@xorgy the more i read about texas, the more i love it

Yeah, it's NH or TX for me, when I get around to moving USward.

Possibly both, I guess.

are you european?

not sure why voter id is such a huge fighting point in the US
canada and provincial elections require either the voter card + id (medical/drivers license/passport) or bill with name + id

@oprahsminge I'm Canadian, but I have U.S. citizenship.

oh thank god

@Tornzy It's because the American left is packed with horrible racists, and they'll believe anything if it means they get to think less of blacks without feeling guilty about it or looking bad to their friends.

Voter ID is an issue for the democrats because they want illegals to vote.

Voter ID is a huge fighting point because Fraud Voters/Illegal Voters will be a huge base for the Democratic Party

@Tornzy Combination of soft racism and voter fraud being a big part of certain party action.

That's the whole point of the Amnesty Push that's eventually gonna come again

ugh

pls no

Remove Amnesty

holy fuck man. Yeah fuck amnesty

welp, u damn well know it's coming during a Democrat Administration as "Immigration Reform"

I mean, criminal amnesty would be reasonable (but no voting rights) if something drastic were done, and a commitment were made to reject future entrants aggressively.

they're already asking for abolition of ICE, they will do whatever it takes to get to power, even if they have to import voters

i.e. Amnesty registrations close in Jan. 2019, and bye-bye goes anyone who didn't register.

Completely stop issuing the papers at that point.

Put ads in the newspapers of every major south and central american country

so that nobody can tell you that they didn't know.

it's millions of people who are not getting deported anytime soon, they said no more amnesty last time and here we are

once you have a huge number of people in the country, it's really hard to get them out, especially when one of your major parties craves them as a voter base

@xorgy amnesty is only pertaining to illegals. Not to what I think you're talking about