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2018-10-10 18:22:34 UTC

@oprahsminge what's it about??

2018-10-10 18:22:43 UTC

put it in newsroom

2018-10-10 18:23:00 UTC

it talks about misconceptions the left and right have about the country

2018-10-10 18:23:05 UTC

I meant good place to visit not to live

2018-10-10 18:23:21 UTC

@oprahsminge can you give a gist if you read the whole thing?

2018-10-10 18:23:24 UTC

i like, at least in theory, the idea behind their version of social security

2018-10-10 18:23:35 UTC

deregulation

2018-10-10 18:23:52 UTC

Singapore is a great place to live tbh, just that your voting doesn't really matter

2018-10-10 18:24:29 UTC

basically it talks about the rather unique circumstances that allow sweden to be sweden in terms of the way it runs

2018-10-10 18:24:54 UTC

they benefit from being a relatively low population country that has a very deep interpersonal trust

2018-10-10 18:25:05 UTC

on economic issues they are further right than the american right

2018-10-10 18:25:13 UTC

in some ways at least

2018-10-10 18:26:11 UTC

theres a film coming out called "Sweden: Lessons for America?"

2018-10-10 18:26:16 UTC

I may need to watch this

2018-10-10 18:26:59 UTC

based on the description there's a few things that simply wont work here

2018-10-10 18:27:23 UTC

some of these things require trust of government which americans simply don't have

2018-10-10 18:27:30 UTC

as much as the left pretends they do

2018-10-10 18:27:46 UTC

Sweden is becoming more America like right now, so they won't work over there either for much longer

2018-10-10 18:27:55 UTC

thats the problem in most of western EU countries

2018-10-10 18:28:00 UTC

not the solution

2018-10-10 18:28:14 UTC

people putting way to much trust in government

2018-10-10 18:29:42 UTC

@AdorableStormtrooper yes but we have a couple issues that we may be able to glean some ideas from

2018-10-10 18:29:50 UTC

they reformed their original pension system

2018-10-10 18:29:56 UTC

they partially privatized it

2018-10-10 18:30:05 UTC

now ultimately I want that entire system here gone

2018-10-10 18:30:16 UTC

but as a kind of intermediate step to remove it, that isn't a terrible idea

2018-10-10 18:30:16 UTC

i agree with that

2018-10-10 18:30:21 UTC

thats interesting

2018-10-10 18:30:24 UTC

public pensions are cancer

2018-10-10 18:30:29 UTC

in addition, they made them variable

2018-10-10 18:30:30 UTC

it's a ponzi scheme

2018-10-10 18:30:38 UTC

so the amount paid depends on the state of the economy

2018-10-10 18:30:41 UTC

they gonna have to do that over here as well i think

2018-10-10 18:31:08 UTC

the person interviewed say "while it may not be as generous now as it was, at least we know it will survive."

2018-10-10 18:31:39 UTC

economically, they are rated as a more free and open economy than america

2018-10-10 18:31:39 UTC

it can be done over a long time so current pension receivers and people who are just about to become eligible aren't affected, people who haven't paid into the system, their shit should be privatised

2018-10-10 18:31:47 UTC

i mean just imagine being 50+ and suddenly getting told that this pension you worked all your life for, paying huge amounts of taxes for.
Well you gonna get less now AND you gonna have to work longer as well!
Were very sorry ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-10-10 18:32:01 UTC

that is what happened here btw

2018-10-10 18:32:04 UTC

its not a hypothetical

2018-10-10 18:32:10 UTC

ive accepted that im going to pay into the system and not expect to get anything

2018-10-10 18:32:30 UTC

though tbh whatever SS can do for me wont really matter since my current retirement plan that is private will pay me several times it

2018-10-10 18:32:57 UTC

ah so ur one of the smart guys ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-10-10 18:33:04 UTC

they privatize over a long time i think don't they? i think they proposed that in NZ, and the proposal was that people who are aged over 40 will not be affected

2018-10-10 18:33:20 UTC

this is why, the sooner you do it, the lower the blow

2018-10-10 18:33:25 UTC

@tritrium not really. I mean social security isn't exactly a high pay system as it is

2018-10-10 18:34:00 UTC

I worked with a guy when I was 22 who was near retirement and he said, "Social Security isn't going to pay me enough to continue living here. So I'm going to supplement it with a part time job"

2018-10-10 18:34:20 UTC

well thats true pensions arent very high here either

2018-10-10 18:34:21 UTC

at that point i realized that "if this guy is boned, I'm definitely going to be boned"

2018-10-10 18:34:38 UTC

so i made some choices

2018-10-10 18:34:41 UTC

the more rightwing parties here keep bitching about unemployment payouts

2018-10-10 18:34:55 UTC

and how they need to cut on those

2018-10-10 18:35:20 UTC

but when u look at the numbers, it barely even shows up in the total budget figures

2018-10-10 18:36:17 UTC

Welfare needs to go anyway, charity should be a private affair

2018-10-10 18:36:23 UTC

cutting unemployment is not necessary

2018-10-10 18:36:39 UTC

he talks about the other EU countries being stupid for trying to mimic sweden

2018-10-10 18:36:52 UTC

basically they are taxing their populace and businesses to death

2018-10-10 18:36:58 UTC

and regulating them to death

2018-10-10 18:37:00 UTC

What is necessary is the formation of public support to tackle longer term issues

2018-10-10 18:37:23 UTC

what do you mean @Blackhawk342

2018-10-10 18:38:28 UTC

I mean that parties need to stop focusing on minutia and start having debates about the long term

2018-10-10 18:38:32 UTC

i wonder how simple the swedish tax system is?

2018-10-10 18:38:47 UTC

For the left, stop harping on LGBTQQIIAA2SP+ issues

2018-10-10 18:39:00 UTC

For the right stop nagging people about abortions and unemployment

2018-10-10 18:39:03 UTC

LGBTQIAAACO-OP

2018-10-10 18:39:11 UTC

Political Parties in a Democracy will never talk long term because that's not how the incentives are set up

2018-10-10 18:39:12 UTC

if you're ubisoft

2018-10-10 18:39:17 UTC

@Timcast can you release videos at 5pm instead of 6pm ? 6pm is midnight here and I often have to postpone watching your videos in order to not be sleep deprived at work ๐Ÿ˜‰ I will understand if you can't.

2018-10-10 18:39:21 UTC

ah ur talking about the stupid navel gazing

2018-10-10 18:39:34 UTC

They're only elected and running for the next 5 years and the public doesn't care about the long term

2018-10-10 18:39:40 UTC

they want shit NOW

2018-10-10 18:39:41 UTC

Thats because the public doesnt care yes

2018-10-10 18:39:52 UTC

@Blackhawk342 I will not stop nagging people about abortions when they ask me if I support them

2018-10-10 18:39:59 UTC

if they don't ask, I wont talk typically

2018-10-10 18:40:04 UTC

Which is why its necessary to rally public support for those issues

2018-10-10 18:40:10 UTC

@oprahsminge if its anything close to the belgian one, its ridicilously confusing but dont take the belgian stuff as a standard, everything is confusing here

2018-10-10 18:40:13 UTC

When I say nagging i dont mean debate or discussions

2018-10-10 18:40:28 UTC

I mean stop having campaigns about it, stop letting it take up air time

2018-10-10 18:40:36 UTC

Abort Leftist Babies

2018-10-10 18:40:38 UTC

that's not going to happen

2018-10-10 18:40:44 UTC

though I don't control it

2018-10-10 18:40:54 UTC

obviously

2018-10-10 18:41:05 UTC

If there's a Will, There's a Way

2018-10-10 18:41:05 UTC

Hence the need to rally public support for long term not just the short term

2018-10-10 18:41:13 UTC

short term support is how you end up with flint michigan situations

2018-10-10 18:41:14 UTC

#AbortLeftistBabies

2018-10-10 18:41:45 UTC

my dude, democracy doesn't lend itself to long term solutions

2018-10-10 18:41:47 UTC

tbf if the leftists continue to be single and not produce children, only the right wing will remain

2018-10-10 18:41:56 UTC

so in a generation, they'll be extinct

2018-10-10 18:41:59 UTC

not currently it doesnt

2018-10-10 18:42:01 UTC

not atleast in the public's interests

2018-10-10 18:42:12 UTC

because the public is in charge and they typically dont think long term

2018-10-10 18:42:31 UTC

most of them dont think a year ahead and anything beyond four years is unheard of

2018-10-10 18:42:48 UTC

All the left needs to do is to stop with the negative, destructive message and find something positive and new.

2018-10-10 18:42:52 UTC

then de-incentivize the federal politics and re-incentivize the state politics

2018-10-10 18:43:04 UTC

if you want longer term strategy

2018-10-10 18:43:20 UTC

Local long term political focus will save the world

2018-10-10 18:43:37 UTC

Not sporadic federal level pushes every 4 years

2018-10-10 18:43:42 UTC

it has to start local

2018-10-10 18:43:45 UTC

yup

2018-10-10 18:43:59 UTC

what works in michigan won't necessarily work in florida

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