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Good idea.
Excellent idea. One that could even be stickied in a few days, to ask for volunteers.
I little mascot could be cute too... or too cheesy? xD
Asides from a mascot, here are some concepts I drew up a while ago:
Like, a mascot idea could be something like a mouse? A play on the phrase โare you a man or a mouseโ, something simple and neutral in nature.
We've been designing logos too. Want a look?
I was going to hold off showing you guys till we had the full sized version, but what do you think?
It looks ok, kind of long, I don't have much input wise on logos
Who designed it?
I like the idea of logos being more square, makes them easier to fit onto things as opposed to being rectangular, but I feel like is heading in the right direction
I did, but it was redrawn by a friend of lazycarrot. I made it as a bumper sticker
Once it has the words men's Human rights movement on it, though, it'll be square
However, I see what you mean and am open to suggestions.
Also, it can be diagonal.
Think of something that a high school kid can graffiti on the bathroom stall quick and easy. We want it to have that pink rock aspect
It would awesome to see it spray painted in alleyways one day. Like a symbol of resistance/counterculture
We also had one where it was just the male gender symbol with the female one blurred into it. I thought it looked like the 'genderless' symbol though
An x with a longer side so it's like an x and a y chromosone
An X that has an arrow for one point and a + for the other?
We should be nice an list issues
Inhad
I had
I'll send it
What are the problems which are currently affecting men?
Male Genital Mutilation being legal worldwide.
98% of Workplace Deaths are men
97% of combat deaths are men
76% of all murder victims are men
Fear of being labeled as pedophiles every time near children.
Less Life Expectancy: Men having 5 years less expectancy than women.
Incarceration rate: Men get 60% harsher sentences than women for the same crime and same criminal background.
Male homelessness: Men being 75% of the homeless and 90% of the roofless.
Men account 80% of the suicides.
Alimony Reform
Default Equal Child custody
Boys failing in education.
Males college education is falling. Men are 40% of the graduates now and is falling.
Prostate Cancer Funding is too low.
The Military drafting of only men.
Lack of reproductive rights.
Paternity testing illegal in many countries.
Forced to support somebody else's child.
World doing nothing to combat male child labor.
Male Human trafficking not given importance even though most of the trafficked are boys and men.
Men cannot be raped according to the government.
Men allowed to retire at a later age than women even when they have lower life expectancy.
Male victims of domestic violence getting arrested due to sexist law called Duluth's model which states that men are the primary aggressor and women only use violence in self defense.
Men getting their whole career destroyed due to an allegation.
This guy is gonna get swarmed by us now it's on the Reddit sub and the discord. Lol
Nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ToUO1knhE
found this video on a channel I have been getting into, a good unbiased view at some of the studies and science in circumcision (also a few facts I didn't know about)
Fascinating.
American Circumcision is also on Netflix though. Highly recommend
is like 5 years old now though xD
I haven't seen it yet, I know about it but I'm too scared to, I think it is a horrific practice and I have a feeling that it might go pretty in depth with the things that make my skin crawl ๐
Yeah, it does.
may get around to it, but I would really have to be in the mood to stomach it... like, I have been interested in that Mandown doco getting made but my dad does no want to watch it at all because he lived it and he wants to be past it, when they touch on the child court stuff in the red pill he just breaks down into tears every time.
It shows the operation but it blurs it out
In the Netflix version, anyway
^ that's a point, maybe it's not on other media idk
Oh, it is.
It's on amazon last I checked.
forgive me I don't want to watch that, I find it horrific ๐
Me too.
The sudden uncensored cutting in The Red Pill was enough for me.
Guys we should really fight the misinformation in the comments section here:
It's a bit late, everything was posted a week ago
It's an sjw sub. Theres no point
@InsaneCaterpilla Oh oops
Well, never mind
We should try and get someone to do some TED talks
If we can
Interesting
Itd be interesting if they'd go for it
They let ms Red Pill do one
They often do controversial stuff
True
And we don't have to tell them the exact angle we'll be taking. XR
Just pick a few male topics
So I know this is a small thing in the scheme of it but I'm trying to talk with the r/rape mods to get r/mensrights removed off the blacklist.
@goodmod are you aware of the various brigades that sub may have suffered as a result of us? Is it all bullshit?
Mens Rights mods don't allow posts advocating brigading other subs... The admins would love to use that as an excuse to shut down /r/mensrights
Of course they don't.
But is there something that may have tangentially been related
We should just ignore that sub.
ATM I'm just trying to see if there's any room to apologize and move forward or if I'm just being lied to and nothing will change.
Well I've been on Reddit years and years personally and I never heard of anything about that. And apologise for what? Even if any users decided to go there and stir up trouble deliberately, it will only have been coincidence, and has nothing to do with the mensrights subreddit.
@GG Allin I dont think that's the case though. I want mras to be accepted. Not frustrated and scared of being pushed away from anyone
Ok not apologize but come up with ways to prevent any potential for it to be related to us. Because I know it isn't. But I'm not trying to convince us
I'm trying to find a middle ground
It being against the mensrights subs rules prevents the potential of being related to the sub
Anyone who would blame the sub for a user or two who posts there isn't thinking rationally
It's against the rules. But that's like saying creating new accounts is against the rules.
If you wanna smooth things over for some reason maybe goodmod would know what the situation was... (I know the question was directed at goodmod, hope you dint mind me interjecting) but honestly, as Allin said, I don't think it's worth the time
Only it's not, because a sub doesn't create new accounts. Users do. They aren't blaming the users but a sub itself
This was never going to be rational discussion. I knew that. And of course I don't mind you interjecting.
Correct @InsaneCaterpilla
Maybe I'm just mildly autistic but I can't stand non rational discussions
My point is trying to at least understand their emotions. As a sub of course brigading isn't allowed but if it just so happened a bunch of Mensrights users made there way over there, all they have is their post histories to go on and it still makes us look bad.
@InsaneCaterpilla yeah. Emotions do suck.
Who'd want to brigade a rape sub anyway. It boggles me. Something must have happened or they're just out right lying.
Sorry if this is all a weird order. My internet is being flaky and sending things out of order
Np, I still remember what it was like being on dial up... Ugh. I get that you wanna make an effort mate, that's a great thing. Just seems like pissing in the wind xD but good luck
^
Cheers. I'm trying to stay cool. The first mod was ok. He's the mod of MenGetRapedToo. But this last message was from someone different with an overly bitchy tone of "who do you think you are. You're not even a mod"
They probably mean to say that they assume you are taking liberties that you don't have with that comment
Pretty much
Well I am but a mere mortal.
@James I'm guessing what happens is they get men's rights people over there just saying "but men get raped". Plus, probably trolls.
Hmm. Is there anything that can be done about this?
I'm guessing it's more of a cultural shift that's needed
You know. No biggie
What are they like over there if a man says he's been raped?
Do they delete it? Lock it? LEave it be?
No. Most are fine. They definitely get less traction but that's like anything on Reddit
But if you've ever posted in r/Mensrights it's an instaban by a bot
Wow.
That's against Reddit's rules
TwoX does it too, I know
I couldn't help but read the discussion. So let me one thing straight, some subs instaban if you have posts in r/mensrights?
Yup.
Yes, they do. Some more than others, for instance some will ban you just for having posts there, and others if you express any opinion that can be construed to be 'men's rights stuff'
As in the mods politely unbanned me as part of our discussion. They've ignored my last message but whatever. Made a very simple comment I'm MR yesterday and get a message that I've been autobanned again ๐
You can usually still see the comments if you replace the r in reddit in the url with a C
As long as notabug has already found the post
And here's an article debunking the 'MGM is okay' lies in that thread https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/af2dy3/unconstitutional_us_antifgm_law_exposes_hypocrisy/?utm_source=reddit-android
Thanks for that.
No worries
Wow, I'm debating this lunatic on Reddit and, wow.
He keeps calling me delusional for citing actual scientific studies.
Oh, and he said male genital mutilation is not as bad. Lol
Upvoted/downvoted accordingly
Thanks a lot
If you want to whack him over the head at all, be my guest. ๐
Might start another debate in here, but let's see.
Please, everyone upvote the question and any good answers - it looks like someone is quietly trying to kill the whole topic. That's pretty low.
Jesus. It's consistently returning to 0. Somebody is pissed.
Yeah, they want to bury it
My comment had been downvoted to bottom
Which they?
They the feminists
No I know but which true Scotsman are we thinking it is today
"Not the real feminists"
This is a clear brigade. Someone or several someones are using alt accounts here. Possibly dozens of them. I suspect they are behind several such things where the comments don't favour feminism. They are very clever to not post and revel themselves.
Thatโs not good.
I've seen this question asked so many times. It always gets a lot of responses, many negative to feminism, and either very low or negative upvotes.
I think it's odd that the post has stayed at exactly 0 upvotes for several hours.
This is a sub where questions directed towards feminist answers get 14k upvotes
I made a post about this. I want to see what others think.
It has slipped back to 3. I'd bet it'll hit zero soon
Post is gaining steam now. It's still only at 10
I think it's mainly that little boost from us upvoting
Hopefully it will overcome whoever keeps downvoting it, lol
Have you guys seen the NPC reaction to the razor advert? Lol
Banned and muted ๐
No reason given if course
They muted even before I had a chance to send them a message
Of course. That's exactly the kind of behaviour that marks out non-nazis. ;)
reddit /u/atronautsloth posted a new link in /r/MensRights
Women have been killing children for hundreds of years. When is Gillette going to run a commercial on it? - https://redd.it/agbr67
Haven't read it yet. Thoughts?
reddit /u/Mikkelangelo13 posted a new self post in /r/MensRights
Trolling feminists 101 - https://redd.it/agbj59
Make a post in r/AskFeminists as a man, saying something like, "if my wife wants to become a stay at home parent of one small child, would it be unreasonable to expect that she picks up the majority of the chores?"
In my opinion, u/Mikkelangelo13 is doing far more harm to the MRM than good. Trolling anyone is no way to gain trust for a movement.
So is concern trolling.
Fuck the new Gillette ad
It's more than halfway there to the 50 most disliked YouTube videos
Spread it and boycott Gillette
๐
Did you see that they are upvote manipulating?
How do u mean?
According to some redditors who have been watching the video, dislikes have been undone but not upvotes. Basically a few people came back and saw that the number of dislikes is a lot lower than it was before.
Iโve checked the video several times, Iโve had to downvote it each subsequent time I checked.
Christ
Wtf
Have you seen the reaction from other places? https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/agsmsh/made_out_of_anger_at_the_whole_gillette_situation/?utm_source=reddit-android
Their pinned comment states YouTube have demonitised the whole channel.
Jesus things are getting out of hand.
Yep
Literally as soon as they posted that
Luckily their being too obtuse about it and the public is catching on
Wow. Has anyone ever delved into /r/TrollXChromosomes? It's CRAZY in there.
Gilette?
Oh yes.
Christ
Look at how they respond to it, lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/agsmsh/made_out_of_anger_at_the_whole_gillette_situation/
I tried to comment. XD
Just to see what they would say.
We should spread that link everywhere!
Update on that guy
Massive asshole
reddit /u/ahfreaq posted a new link in /r/pussypassdenied
Lets help save this baby boy - https://redd.it/ajdx65
https://www.change.org/p/instagram-end-the-child-abuse-exploitation-of-lactatia-mizrahi?recruiter=931801767&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
Every day we drift further from decency
That was pretty much my reaction too.
If this was a little girl people would lose there shit but because it's a boy nobody cares
I'd say so.
Feminists defend this therefore they defend pedophiles
This isn't the first time. At least according to the daily mail
We are hitting the turning point here.
yay
Wow, you guys REALLY need to see the level of crazy anti-male hatred in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/ajus5g/how_do_we_raise_feminist_sons
omg
im reading it
its horrifying
those poor boys...and just think how many are being raised like that
they're going to destroy a generation.
im sure im going to be banned from there, burt im jumping it anyway
well i deleted my angry comments and forced a calmer response here:
but how awful
It's the "it's a strong temptation, even for a strong man" that gets me.
How fucking hateful do you have to be. Or scarier yet..
She's projecting.
psychopaths. and just think- how many boys are being programmed that way right now?
it will make every gap worse- male education, homelessness, unemployment, health, violence, etc. destroying men from childhood
and i dont think they're unaware, i think its intentional
like clemintine ford, she knows shes a sociopath and she likes it
we have to expose people and communities like that, dig in, find stories, spread them to the public. interview sons, look up arrest records for child abuse, etc
There's this comment from the OP of that thread that is just... kind of terrifying
"Men raised by feminists turn into violent bigots" Well, perhaps, have you considered *not* indoctrinating them with your ideology that will inevitably make them full of self-hatred?
Oh gosh
@Mush Yeah I saw that, pretty horrifying
I'm always surprised that these individuals cannot understand they're pushing for trying to educate psychopaths by educating all men only.
As if that's even productive.
Thankfully removeddit has most of the deleted stuff, hilarious to read.
Pisses me off how public schools are forcing feminism onto male students
I think trying to teach younger boys this crap is going to have a detrimental effect
I already knew what was going on early with all the "sugar and spice and everything nice" crap you hear.
It's pretty obvious how different boys and girls are in k-12
Feminism has just morphed into the same old chivalry nonsense. "YOu can't hit a girl. Girl's never lie. etc."
well i mean they've already taken father's out of the home so this is merely the next step
My teacher pulled the sexism card when I told her I disagreed with her views on feminism
the only way feminists tend to feel empowered is by shaming men
don't let it get to you
I throw it right back at them
They get miffed
Feminism = bunch of women with insecure attachments styles that overgeneralize their poor choices in men to the behavior of all men
This was two years ago but I was just reminded of it. The fact that they've brought this shit into the school system and are forcing it on male students infuriates me
It's a cult
Get them while they're young I suppose
This is what you get when you throw traditional religions out the window. People have to make up new bullshit to subjigate everyone else to.
Eh, saying it's the cause of lack of religion is a bit of a stretch there
People need dogmas to adhere to
I disagree, and tbh, that whole area is off-topic
People need to feel morally superior to others
Earlier it was through religion
It's probably much more accurate to say that people want or enjoy the feeling of that, not that they need it to be part of their existance
And someone without a dogma can still feel superior to others either way
Dogma is an easy way for the masses to feel morally superior
A set belief system making some people feel better than others isn't an argument that that's a good or bad thing
I never said it's good or bad. It's just that obsession with 'social justice' stems from their feeling of moral superiority. It's somewhat like the idea of 'white man's burden'
You can say that about anyone passionate about a subject, including men's rights. Do we not feel superior to feminists? The original thing I replied to said that its what happens when religion (a dogma) is taken away, when that doesn't have to be the case, it doesn't *necessarily* have to be replaced by another by matter of need.
Trying morally superior to others is a human trait.
Just that religion is one of the easiest way to feel superior. And social justice comes after it
It can be described by the fundamental difference in ideologies of modernism and postmodernism
You aren't really going to address what I've said then, just plod on regardless?
You know, people need to get obsessed over something... It gives human life meaning. When religiosity was the norm, it was what people got obsessed over.
As the religions' effect waned off, the social justice trend would too wane off
Religion is even fundamentally social justice
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