This one

you mean the article you responded to was gone

not that our site was somehow messed with

Yep! Article is flat out gone

The one I responded to!

doesnt surprise me. thats why we have to save everything with archive.is

Yep

they tried that with me to for that alimony reform in florida, that 72 year old with alzheimesr

just goes to show how well coordinated/capable they are

I was hoping this would happen, but there's no way to know it was specifically a brigade we caused

and that they can never be trusted to operate in good faith. they will ALWAYS lie and cheat to the end

@blueorange22 Oh? Go on?

What did you do?

This used to have a usatoday article:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/usa-today-on-florida-and_b_1216240

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xupCEas8JEA

i sent a bunch of email and wrote to newspapers across the florida

and a few days later the usatoday article was gone

Cool! Maybe you could write an article about how activism works!

its troubling that anti MRAs can change the web so easily

Yep

They say the internet is forever, but it's more organic than that

@InsaneCaterpilla " How do we get around this in our activism efforts?" How much are you aware of the history of activism? I think that question is a mistake

If I were to answer it though, I would say: "rather than trying to mind control six billion people or so, I recommend simply having an organization that can speak for itself, not just the movement. Think NOW, AVFM, NCFM, or ACLU"

AFAIK, angry activism seems to be the effective form of activism

This is one of the reasons I think MGTOW, besides simply being a useful idea in its own right, is likely to be a surprisingly effective social movement despite not really pressing for social change

The problem I'm having is ways to do things without running afoul of sites rules (such as reddits or discords) when performing some activism efforts.

Indeed, sometimes doing things like that can result in the police being called over harassment and such. It makes it harder for activism to be carried out

Well, most of those places don't really worry about that too much if you're not actively calling for harassment (which for the most part you shouldn't be).

I agree that self contained sites seem to be the way to go when it comes to that, that way only the law is really applicable. I think we need a strong grasp of the law in regards to harassment when it comes time to be going down that path

But if you are trying to bug some politician or something, twitter and chans seem to be pretty effective

Though I suppose I'm not sure #TellVicEverything would be allowed on twitter nowadays

Chans?

4-chan isn't the only chan

I know... I'm just not sure how using @channels helps, nor how they would be used

Are you talking about recruiting people from there?

Well that's one of the public places you'd put an internet-based activism campaign

that wouldn't really care too much about things that aren't legal harassment

It's been a while since I ever went on any /pol/

I've actually never been there, I've just heard the legends

Mmm... Ok, thanks for the input

It's okay to recommend contacting various groups or corporations. The circumcision centre is an exception because some of the intactivists are *guaranteed* to start calling them paedophiles and other nasty things right off the bat.

@goodmod That's a fair point.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ab18zu/male_domestic_abuse_victim_just_days_away_from

By the way everyone.

I'm looking for graphic designers to make an 'attack pack' for the mrm

This would basically be an 'mra branded' pack of stickers, mini posters, big posters, bumper stickers, and so on. Idea is we let people download and print them or buy the phisical pack for cost off of some sticker website.

What do y'all think?

YES! Exactly what we need

Logo

Strong, basic, easy to draw

Good idea.

Excellent idea. One that could even be stickied in a few days, to ask for volunteers.

I little mascot could be cute too... or too cheesy? xD

Asides from a mascot, here are some concepts I drew up a while ago:

Like, a mascot idea could be something like a mouse? A play on the phrase “are you a man or a mouse”, something simple and neutral in nature.

We've been designing logos too. Want a look?

I was going to hold off showing you guys till we had the full sized version, but what do you think?

It looks ok, kind of long, I don't have much input wise on logos

Who designed it?

I like the idea of logos being more square, makes them easier to fit onto things as opposed to being rectangular, but I feel like is heading in the right direction

I did, but it was redrawn by a friend of lazycarrot. I made it as a bumper sticker

Once it has the words men's Human rights movement on it, though, it'll be square

However, I see what you mean and am open to suggestions.

Also, it can be diagonal.

Think of something that a high school kid can graffiti on the bathroom stall quick and easy. We want it to have that pink rock aspect

It would awesome to see it spray painted in alleyways one day. Like a symbol of resistance/counterculture

We also had one where it was just the male gender symbol with the female one blurred into it. I thought it looked like the 'genderless' symbol though

An x with a longer side so it's like an x and a y chromosone

An X that has an arrow for one point and a + for the other?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a0fttm/pissed_off_father_calls_out_the_corrupt_judicial/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/actv2v/why_activists_dont_stand_up_for_men_more_often/?utm_source=reddit-android

We should be nice an list issues

Inhad

I had

I'll send it

What are the problems which are currently affecting men?
Male Genital Mutilation being legal worldwide.
98% of Workplace Deaths are men
97% of combat deaths are men
76% of all murder victims are men
Fear of being labeled as pedophiles every time near children.
Less Life Expectancy: Men having 5 years less expectancy than women.
Incarceration rate: Men get 60% harsher sentences than women for the same crime and same criminal background.
Male homelessness: Men being 75% of the homeless and 90% of the roofless.
Men account 80% of the suicides.
Alimony Reform
Default Equal Child custody
Boys failing in education.
Males college education is falling. Men are 40% of the graduates now and is falling.
Prostate Cancer Funding is too low.
The Military drafting of only men.
Lack of reproductive rights.
Paternity testing illegal in many countries.
Forced to support somebody else's child.
World doing nothing to combat male child labor.
Male Human trafficking not given importance even though most of the trafficked are boys and men.
Men cannot be raped according to the government.
Men allowed to retire at a later age than women even when they have lower life expectancy.
Male victims of domestic violence getting arrested due to sexist law called Duluth's model which states that men are the primary aggressor and women only use violence in self defense.
Men getting their whole career destroyed due to an allegation.

This guy is gonna get swarmed by us now it's on the Reddit sub and the discord. Lol

Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ToUO1knhE
found this video on a channel I have been getting into, a good unbiased view at some of the studies and science in circumcision (also a few facts I didn't know about)

Fascinating.

American Circumcision is also on Netflix though. Highly recommend

is like 5 years old now though xD

I haven't seen it yet, I know about it but I'm too scared to, I think it is a horrific practice and I have a feeling that it might go pretty in depth with the things that make my skin crawl 😄

Yeah, it does.

may get around to it, but I would really have to be in the mood to stomach it... like, I have been interested in that Mandown doco getting made but my dad does no want to watch it at all because he lived it and he wants to be past it, when they touch on the child court stuff in the red pill he just breaks down into tears every time.

It shows the operation but it blurs it out

In the Netflix version, anyway

^ that's a point, maybe it's not on other media idk

Oh, it is.

It's on amazon last I checked.

forgive me I don't want to watch that, I find it horrific 😄

Me too.

The sudden uncensored cutting in The Red Pill was enough for me.

Guys we should really fight the misinformation in the comments section here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/comments/a9mxz9/why_im_not_a_feminist_this_ought_to_be_good/?utm_source=reddit-android

It's a bit late, everything was posted a week ago

It's an sjw sub. Theres no point