The reason it may be discussed often is because it is relevant,

Well, People on the TFM server act like it's the end and be all.

I think MGTOW is closer to the natural way that men exist than anything that is taught to us.

What do you mean by that? @ColdEmbraceOfDeath

So what if you take away their rights? Technology is a thing, we're not going back to a time before electricity, so a woman's job is easy as shit.

You're still signing up for a shit deal

But of course that is a long ways away,

I think back to the Clint Eastwood movies that I watched as a kid now with MGTOW mindset and I think he gave us a glimpse of what being a man in the world is about.

For her popping out a couple of kids, still providing for her even after her point of utility

Saying if we do it now, the problems we’re having now would be fixed.

@everyone streaming: https://www.youtube.com/c/HappyHumbleHermit/live

Currently we don’t have that technology just yet.

But of course If I point that, there would be a guy on a marriage strike going all REE about it.

Really?

By technology, I meant washing machines, electric cookers etc.,

I have to run afk and grab my mic incase I want to chime in.

That a woman's duties aren't worth shit in the current year

I mean, I’m sure people on the monkey business discord server aren’t like that.

Here for discussion and debate after all.

It's not back breaking work compared to how it used to be in the past for a woman

Eh, I've had my fair share of debates with guys about that.

Well we still have our natural instincts, and it definitely is a burden it forces you and it punishes you for not having a women,

They all want the American dream, they are fine with that even if it's not a great deal to sign up for.

Your rewarded for having a women in your life, and that’s why many men like tradcons and traditionalists are ONLY led by their instincts.

But you can not act on it though, there are men here who are celibate and not in a relationship

Like NPC’s only operating on their basic instinctual function.

Well yeah I’m just pointing out that we still have that urge, not saying you should have a girlfriend.

I don't agree with it being instinctual, Tradcons do it because they think it's manly to do it, that's it's your responsibility

That's it's what Christ would expect from you, that it is anti-human and anti-Christian to not do it.

That as well, but it also has to do with it feeling very good and that it’s their complete purpose, they think it’s manly because it’s their instincts.

I for one wish I could get married even though we have technology, but the laws, society as a whole prevents me from it because it’s a terrible and one sided deal.

And the fact that women are very narcissistic, down right insane, and many being unethical people at times.

That being many western women.

* women in general

Indian chicks are no better

If we took away their extra privileges, and role back gynocentrism, and actually promoted merit, justice based morality, men being men and women being women.

Then I would marry if we did that.

Because there are no risks, and I would like to raise children of my own.

My wife wouldn’t be a pain in the ass, a nagging hag, or any of that, it would be a loving relationship, it’s a dream and sadly it won’t come true as of now.

Or ever,

Those times are over, it’s no longer the 50’s

And it takes generations to have this kind of mindset completely engraved into a society.

Or a couple.

I'll check my setting

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No risks but also no net gain.

People who have kids are less happier than the ones that have never had kids and are much most stressed out.

You're not going to have multiple kids the way people used to in the past because we're not in the same economic situation as we used to be in the past.

@Andrew The Meme King first zodd now itachi. why have you forsaken me?

@shadowlessnexus I'm on your side man

its fine. it was a joke

he only temp muted me

We need your ***hentai expertise***

wow. It is really rough listening to my own voice

everyone hates their own voice. dont worry your not alone

@shadowlessnexus ***makes mod***

@Andrew The Meme King STAHP ENDORSING ME FOR STUFF

LMAO N0

this is gonna be the new meme. i get timed out for one reason or another during a livestream and everyone gets mad

Itachi bout to do it every damn stream I swear

zodd did it first by accident

lmao

itachi did it because he knows he cant win the arguement that the uchiha clan is garbage af and cant even beat one ni🅱🅱a

you know what. im making a meme about this

back to that earlier topic. if you want me to be a mod ill do it

I mean being a stream mod is given to like everyone, but would you like to be a discord mod too?

meh. idc either way. but ill do the job.

my true passion is making memes

and waifu posting.

aight

@shadowlessnexus Meme hard

🅱

With the caller talking about alphas, it would seem to me that with MGTOW being about seeking value outside of women that putting effort into becoming an alpha would be kind of anti-MGTOW

back

I'll be back in like an hour.

k. ill make sure the place doesnt explode

...somehow

LoL, @shadowlessnexus thinks I'm out to get him <:smug:480186113990852608>

you are. you were always jealous of my **memes**

Ahhajajuajjajajajjajjahahhahahhahahahahaha

also small request. could the meme duke role be purple? i like the colour purple

oh so your just gonna laugh and then leave me? why you gotta do a brother like that?

welcome back @The Tradesman dont worry. the server didnt explode while you were gone.

lol

I will. I need to shower.

I'm all fucking stinky from work.

Being a tradesman and all.

😆 ^

I gtg in about 20 mins for a quick work meeting

I might have to exit though

I have a work meeting soon