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So any thoughts on aboritions?

Meh
I feel like taking it away would be taking away female rights

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> Meh
> I feel like taking it away would be taking away female rights
@furball, the sheriff how

Welp these feminist (the one that I get to meet) are always standing for female rights, since females can only get pregnant, so I feel it would be their right to abort the child

Why not

The sanctity of life is bullshit

You don’t have a “right to live”

That’s bullshit taught to us by outdated religion

Religion should be abolished

Especially Christianity

> You don’t have a “right to live”
@NumberOneSilver do you think murder is a crime?

Is it really murder if its not even outside the womb

That was not my point

He thinks people don't even have a right to life

We do
But don't we earn that after were out of the womb?

Yeah, I think people have a right to live

But it's an arguement of it's own if fetuses in the womb are people

We kill actual humans all the time so

Also please get a name I can tag

No, we kill innocent people too

Medically

Brain dead people

Accidentally, or they have to unplug them because of financial issues

They arent suffering they feel nothing

They are brain dead

They dont think

They dont feel

But they are alive

There fetus they don't feel they aren't completely developed
What if it died in the womb?

@furball, the sheriff what?

<@398034001006166017> at the cost of limiting women's freedom and burdening the mother? Especially since they most likely will create a horrible life for the child?

What if the child died in the womb,would you still give birth to it because its "still a potential life" or something like that

Abortion in certain cases is necessary

Also rape victim

<@398034001006166017> you dont always have that control

So abstinence is the only way then?

State enforced abstinence

I am against abortion caused due to mistakes of the parents

Don't screw around if you don't want kid

Why is abortion due to rape prohibited?

@George Penny why is it the women's fault she got pregnant?

Why not the mans?

But why the mother suffer 2 times?

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> Unless she wants to become a murderer
@George Penny

The spawn of rapist should be aborted. Nothing wrong with it

Yeah but the woman never wanted the baby

Mother didn't do anything to deserve such fate too

She either got raped or just wanted sex

Second option is not an excuse

@George Penny yeah but she still has to go through pregnancy and labor

Not to mention the fact that you seem to not actually care about the child

A shitty life?

Where it will probably die young or kill itself?

Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?

For how long?

They are more likely to be poor

> Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?
@FUI-FUI I think the argument is not about the life of the child inasmuch as his right to life

@justkaus oh well a child has a right to live....a fetus is debatable

We kill plenty of humans

Not just evil mean criminals either

Innocent people die all the time

So you wanna protect all human life yes?

Make sure people can live?

> Innocent people die all the time
@FUI-FUI again. The fetus, if it's human has a right to live. That's where the crux of the argument is

@justkaus yeah, innocent humans die all the time

@George Penny so you support healthcare?

> Not really, by the scientific definitions of life, a fetus is alive. And it is human
@George Penny can you tell the scientific definition of alive ?

Health care is a necessity

I don't see why it should not be free

@George Penny why not? It helps innocent people stay alive

So does forced childbirth come at the cost of a womans money and time, and the doctors and hospitals

No its relevant

Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live

Which you dont

> Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live
@FUI-FUI that's a bit of a strawman argument. If ubi becomes burden on the economy then many other useful plans and schemes will also be cut. The net negative dosent go away, it shifts

Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places

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@justkaus yeah but you guys wanna protect life? Sacrifice military spending

> Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places
@FUI-FUI and what if higher taxes just kill growth in itself? Look man, I also agree this is irrelevant to the argument

Free healthcare denies manipulation done by big pharma

> @justkaus yeah but you guys wanna protect life? Sacrifice military spending
@FUI-FUI military which lets you sleep peacefully at night?

Removing the element of profit from healthcare would do more good than bad

Again, this discussion had shifted

@justkaus higher taxes arent going to kill people, especially if we use this brilliant thing called tax brackets and redirecting funds

As for military idc about killing iraqis

Wait so what about the right to life for the fetus

But this does relate to pro life actually

Because my viewpoint of pro lifers

Pro life only refers to abortion

> But this does relate to pro life actually
@FUI-FUI no it doesn't. You are doing a textbook strawman

Is that their actually just anti choice

They dont care about life

And you’re pro death

Death for kids

They care about limiting women's rights

@Mr.Respect fetuses actually

It’s not a right