> I personally belief weak state and leniency in economic policies ultimately lead to rich lobbying in government @beni no. The companies directly pay the political parties that's why. It's not about the govt. The day politicians start getting funds from different sources, all of them are fucked
> Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all? @FUI-FUI I think the argument is not about the life of the child inasmuch as his right to life
> Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live @FUI-FUI that's a bit of a strawman argument. If ubi becomes burden on the economy then many other useful plans and schemes will also be cut. The net negative dosent go away, it shifts
> Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places @FUI-FUI and what if higher taxes just kill growth in itself? Look man, I also agree this is irrelevant to the argument
> @justkaus higher taxes arent going to kill people, especially if we use this brilliant thing called tax brackets and redirecting funds @FUI-FUI even then. Not wanting UBI does not equal to wanting misery for people
> Religious people here, The second your faith becomes your evidence all believe in it. @Dr, ImOn DisCord can you rephrase it? I didn't get what you mean
> I mean like, isnt it a new life the moment the cell is created? @GussTR no because you are thinking conception is the moment a new life is created. Think of it more like, a mold starts to form, the life gets filled in later
> >his definition
> Thats subjective and arbitrary @GussTR ik ik. But even by those standards you can't say the baby is *alive* at the time of conception
> embryo id say @Mr.Respect that's what I am trying to tell, scientists haven't come to conclusion yet. All we know is, it isint alive till quite some time after conception
> here it says it counts as alive at 12 weeks @Mr.Respect one paper dosent change the whole discussion. The scientific community is pretty divided on this topic apparently.
But here's my schtick, if and when we decide exactly at what point the fetus becomes alive. Before that abortion is ok, after that, is not
> their fault @Mr.Respect they will suffer for it
But as I said, I am Pro right to live. If you abort before it's alive, you are only destroying human tissue, you are not murdering someone, and that's ok imo
No, that is absolutely not like pulling the plug on someone on a coma, because the guy in a coma is ALIVE.
I am saying abortion is ok as long as the fetus ISINT alive, cuz otherwise it's murder
And religion is not a tool for control, it's a tool for upliftment of human soul out of misery. Believe it or not, every religion can go hand in hand with spirituality
> We shouldnโt condone needless killing, but if it had meaning behind it, then itโs none of my business and Iโll turn a blind eye to it @NumberOneSilver so suppose a guy is robbing a house and the owner wakes up in the middle of it and the theif kills the owner and leave
Now. The murder had meaning behind it, the guy didn't want to get caught.
> @justkaus It was a bit of an outlandish scenario to begin with, but okay. What exactly are you getting at? @NumberOneSilver no. It wasn't outlandish at all. Many times people get killed like this many times. But anyways I got my answer
> What is that meaning? @NumberOneSilver there isint a one specific one. Well I believe there is, but for a nihilist like you, all you should focus on, is appreciating what you have.
> We exist by mere chance, evolved this way by chance....There is not โmeaningโ behind it, it just happened. So you either cope or die @NumberOneSilver "chance" is what uneducated people call destiny
> Iโm not in search of meaning, because there is none to be found. And I am content and satisfied with That. @NumberOneSilver then you found your life's meaning no? To be content and satisfied.
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