So abstinence is the only way then?

State enforced abstinence

I am against abortion caused due to mistakes of the parents

Don't screw around if you don't want kid

Why is abortion due to rape prohibited?

@George Penny why is it the women's fault she got pregnant?

Why not the mans?

But why the mother suffer 2 times?

GG @George Penny, you just advanced to level 1!

> Unless she wants to become a murderer
@George Penny

The spawn of rapist should be aborted. Nothing wrong with it

Yeah but the woman never wanted the baby

Mother didn't do anything to deserve such fate too

She either got raped or just wanted sex

Second option is not an excuse

@George Penny yeah but she still has to go through pregnancy and labor

Not to mention the fact that you seem to not actually care about the child

A shitty life?

Where it will probably die young or kill itself?

Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?

For how long?

They are more likely to be poor

> Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?
@FUI-FUI I think the argument is not about the life of the child inasmuch as his right to life

@justkaus oh well a child has a right to live....a fetus is debatable

We kill plenty of humans

Not just evil mean criminals either

Innocent people die all the time

So you wanna protect all human life yes?

Make sure people can live?

> Innocent people die all the time
@FUI-FUI again. The fetus, if it's human has a right to live. That's where the crux of the argument is

@justkaus yeah, innocent humans die all the time

@George Penny so you support healthcare?

> Not really, by the scientific definitions of life, a fetus is alive. And it is human
@George Penny can you tell the scientific definition of alive ?

Health care is a necessity

I don't see why it should not be free

@George Penny why not? It helps innocent people stay alive

So does forced childbirth come at the cost of a womans money and time, and the doctors and hospitals

No its relevant

Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live

Which you dont

> Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live
@FUI-FUI that's a bit of a strawman argument. If ubi becomes burden on the economy then many other useful plans and schemes will also be cut. The net negative dosent go away, it shifts