Health care is a necessity

I don't see why it should not be free

@George Penny why not? It helps innocent people stay alive

So does forced childbirth come at the cost of a womans money and time, and the doctors and hospitals

No its relevant

Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live

Which you dont

> Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live
@FUI-FUI that's a bit of a strawman argument. If ubi becomes burden on the economy then many other useful plans and schemes will also be cut. The net negative dosent go away, it shifts

Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places

GG @George Penny, you just advanced to level 2!

@justkaus yeah but you guys wanna protect life? Sacrifice military spending

> Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places
@FUI-FUI and what if higher taxes just kill growth in itself? Look man, I also agree this is irrelevant to the argument

Free healthcare denies manipulation done by big pharma

> @justkaus yeah but you guys wanna protect life? Sacrifice military spending
@FUI-FUI military which lets you sleep peacefully at night?

Removing the element of profit from healthcare would do more good than bad

Again, this discussion had shifted

@justkaus higher taxes arent going to kill people, especially if we use this brilliant thing called tax brackets and redirecting funds

As for military idc about killing iraqis

Wait so what about the right to life for the fetus

But this does relate to pro life actually

Because my viewpoint of pro lifers

Pro life only refers to abortion

> But this does relate to pro life actually
@FUI-FUI no it doesn't. You are doing a textbook strawman

Is that their actually just anti choice

They dont care about life

And you’re pro death

Death for kids

They care about limiting women's rights

@Mr.Respect fetuses actually

It’s not a right

How is it a right

Because it's my body

> @justkaus higher taxes arent going to kill people, especially if we use this brilliant thing called tax brackets and redirecting funds
@FUI-FUI even then. Not wanting UBI does not equal to wanting misery for people

No it’s not

It’s a separate organism

And it’s human

@Mr.Respect its inside of me, connected to me, hardly independently thinking. I wouldnt even consider it a person.

But it’s there because of your fault

The point is this. At which point the fetus "gets life". After that abortion not ok, before that ok

So take responsibility

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