Message from @beni
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She either got raped or just wanted sex
Second option is not an excuse
@George Penny yeah but she still has to go through pregnancy and labor
Not to mention the fact that you seem to not actually care about the child
A shitty life?
Where it will probably die young or kill itself?
Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?
For how long?
They are more likely to be poor
> Could you explain how an unwanted child who gets cast away is good at all?
@FUI-FUI I think the argument is not about the life of the child inasmuch as his right to life
@justkaus oh well a child has a right to live....a fetus is debatable
We kill plenty of humans
Not just evil mean criminals either
Innocent people die all the time
So you wanna protect all human life yes?
Make sure people can live?
> Innocent people die all the time
@FUI-FUI again. The fetus, if it's human has a right to live. That's where the crux of the argument is
@George Penny so you support healthcare?
> Not really, by the scientific definitions of life, a fetus is alive. And it is human
@George Penny can you tell the scientific definition of alive ?
I don't see why it should not be free
@George Penny why not? It helps innocent people stay alive
So does forced childbirth come at the cost of a womans money and time, and the doctors and hospitals
No its relevant
Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live
Which you dont
> Becaude if you cared about human life you would support these things which help humans live
@FUI-FUI that's a bit of a strawman argument. If ubi becomes burden on the economy then many other useful plans and schemes will also be cut. The net negative dosent go away, it shifts
Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places
GG @George Penny, you just advanced to level 2!
@justkaus yeah but you guys wanna protect life? Sacrifice military spending
> Or we could raise taxes slightly and direct funds from other places
@FUI-FUI and what if higher taxes just kill growth in itself? Look man, I also agree this is irrelevant to the argument
Free healthcare denies manipulation done by big pharma
Removing the element of profit from healthcare would do more good than bad
Again, this discussion had shifted
@justkaus higher taxes arent going to kill people, especially if we use this brilliant thing called tax brackets and redirecting funds
As for military idc about killing iraqis
Wait so what about the right to life for the fetus
But this does relate to pro life actually
Because my viewpoint of pro lifers