Walter ID?

Yes.

Who I would also say is not a suspect.

When you take all the people who saw the message about the plates, and remove those who have already been doxxed, you get:
Ethan
David
Jack
Alexander
Johnny
Marcus
Walter

Ethan, David, Jack, Alexander if you intersect with the set of those who knew they barely made their flight

Unless it can be explained how it isn't someone on that list, it is.

Wait and see when the next dox is published, but it has to be one of them I would think.

If they were smart though they wouldn’t dox anybody else in the PNW

Unless someone shared these details somewhere else but I doubt it.

Word does tend to spread through osmosis in “the movement”

I have zero logs of Marcus_WA ever connecting to the mumble server

Would he be privy to travel party happenings.

Over a span of two months

It could be that the accomplice was deliberately excluded from the airport photo.

Clarke, David, Frederick photographed.

Not photographed: John, Ethan, Jack, Alexander, Leo, Matthew.

So Ethan, Alexander, Jack, and Matthew

Matthew has no current access to our comms

So it would not explain half of the issues we had

Then Ethan, Jack, or Alexander

I don't know that much about Alexander. We need to look into those three.

Who among them were at the meeting?

All of them minus matthew

PNW meeting?

Yes

Have we looked for fake accounts in the PNW meeting logs?

I am doing that now

I didn't verify anyone though, I wasn't at my PC

So no logs like we had before?

I have the logs, I mean to say nobody could have gotten verified if they had a fake account

Because I was dropping off the van

Roger that. So no fake accounts.

Ethan and Jack were drivers. Both paid extra due to damages. Vincent told Ethan to not get insurance.

We have a copy of Alexander’s ID that he willingly provided, and we verified that it’s real

Have Benjamin look on Facebook for relatives

I assume our infiltrator does have a genuine ID.

Would an infiltrator willingly hand over their ID and let guys come to their house though?

No

Only if they wanted to take a risk

I just think that’s too far

The notion of too far was broken when our VE and trucks received a coordinated attack.

It is possible we are over-personifying this individual. We know we are not evil, so we project the same mindfulness onto others in most cases. I was thinking about this earlier. We should be careful to not let it cloud our judgement.

These people are rabid, and as Thomas pointed out a couple times now, acted to harm us.

My only concern is the various lists, and information that can get us suspects or remove them. My heart is with every single other member besides whoever aided the infiltration.

I feel like we're nearing a dead end investigating these four. With John anyways. @Vincent TX Can you talk to John and pick up where I left off? A fresh set of eyes could find something.

What was the last thing you discussed with him. He called me disgruntled about the license plate thing.

@Vincent TX DM's.

Yes

I got this too, just wanted to confirm.

How does David know who exactly is on the team?

No clue.

https://pf3618.bloodandsoil.org/direct/n8Hnfj4Hze86xAjyfySyNAR6XGR4qHDejF?msg=b3arPEzAHujfapyFL

I don’t recall the members of the tech team ever being mentioned anywhere at all

Correct.

@Jason NY Share your leaks explained vs. unexplained document with Samuel.

I can’t until I have access to a computer again

There is no way someone would know Ben is on the tech team...

Hey Vince get to Mumble. People are waiting.

I have verified everyone who messaged me

Don't verify anyone who isn't yet

Every night at 8.

I was here half the night

Was just outside talking to John

Most people are not messaging me they just sit there

Letting people in who are not verified and don't follow the rules makes all of this pointless

Maybe Thomas send out a reminder of the process. Tell them to read the mumble instructions on Victory and follow them.

@Vincent TX I had them all DM me after asking them in voice.

I brought them into a meeting room, told them a phrase to DM me, and then registered once phrase was sent.

Ok then in that case verify everyone who messaged you

Already done.

I talked to John. His whole travel party is cleared with the exception of Alexander, due to his past dealings.

Every one of those guys has either been to multiple events, lives and breathes our cause, or is regularly wignasty enough to warrant them not being a culprit

Re. tech team names. Possibly John WA mentioned it? He asked me a few days back about some of the server stuff and I told him not to worry that the servers were secure. I told him if was fine to use mumble and RC.

I instructed him to talk to his Doxxed guys and have them talk to their DMV and demand to know who looked up their plates. In WA you can pay $20 to look up someones information.

These just don’t seem like valid reasons to totally clear someone to me.

However I am not entirely sold on the idea that the accomplice must also be from the PNW.

From the conversation I had with John regarding each of these guys it all sounds good to me

Ethan and his wifef hanging swazi christmas decorations, Jack WA painting a sonnenrad on his door

Re. wignasty. I don't want to eliminate anyone totally just because they are supposedly with "the cause" or whatever. AIM had guys that were blackmailed into doxing their friends. Could happen here.

Just throwing that out there, not throwing suspicion anywhere either. I would just be careful about judging anyone based on history alone.

Yeah that is valid, but what I mean in this case. RE Jack WA, he regularly watched hammer streams and NSC material. He actually tried to confront Antifa one time with Vincent WA and Vincent said "hey man we probably shouldn't and Jack went and knocked on the window of their car trying to fight them.

Plus be aware people change, peoples circumstances change. Even long term people sometimes need a second look. Your best friend from a year ago can totally change and become a worst enemy. Felix and Chuck are great examples.

Then reasonably anyone is a suspect and we get nowhere

I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't see a lead

Not necessarily, but I wouldn't totally eliminate anyone based on a swastika tattoo, christmas tree, etc. People do change over time.

Regardless, none of our leads have gotten us anywhere. The lists are not helping, each of them just cause confusion and waste time. We need to approach this differently.

Because there is no way for us to determine for certain if a member we land on is an infiltrator, we need to have them come to us

Agreed I’m pretty set on a honeypot being the best course of action. I would refer back to my previous idea about unique emojis per user.

I think the victory idea is worth trying.

The hidden victory site honepot

It wouldn't take long to make, at least I don't think so. We can even double it up with the idea Jason had. That can be the announcement, that we have updated victory and everyone is to go check it out.

Let me join mumble.

Once they are there, an infiltrator will possibly see the new vuln

I am in meeting room 5.

If anyone wants to discuss please feel free to join.

https://pf3618.bloodandsoil.org/direct/kfcZm8tzXy3bfJquon8Hnfj4Hze86xAjyf?msg=fTnkiFYHdLuWa8ngx

Yes. Rugby baby mumble basketball.

There was one outlier event that happened on the way home. Former Randy NY called me by my true first name somehow in the car when we were saying goodbye at the airport. He travelled with our California crew.

I just thought it was some psychic coincidence. He was referred to us by Samuel VA to be picked up.

He might have seen the dox in the van actually I think I was doxxed before we even left. So nothing burger now that I think about it.

Your dox was published 10:23 AM · Dec 6, 2021 CST