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Interviewee- 668368
18/MI/Detroit
11/23/21
Conductor: Jason TX
Notetaker: Sam MN
Accepted
Test Q: What do you expect will be asked in this interview?
Expects basic location and what his beliefs are about and why he is where he is now.
-- Applicant Information --
Personal Transportation: Personal Vehicle.
Permanent Resident: Not a permanent resident. Will only be here for nine months, then planning on moving back to Florida.
Political Ideology: Nationalist (referring to an older idea of America), Traditionalist (catholic traditionalist values), and someone who is religious.
Drug Abuse: No addiction or abuse.
Religion: Catholic (Chaldean – step dad was Chaldean (Iraqi) – but doesn’t think Iraqis belong in America). No issues working with Christians. No issues with Pagans or Atheists if they don’t try to sway him or denigrate his beliefs.
Why Join: Feels like he’s sitting around not doing much with his life. Wants a higher purpose and to stand for something that he believes in. Saw a video about Pennsylvania and saw how the news was portraying us as cowards. Saw an interview with Thomas, showing what really happened.
Skills: Interested in fitness, and is taking a cybersecurity course with U of Central Florida. Has hiked a lot.
Read Manifesto: Yes, a couple months ago. Agrees with a lot of the stuff, especially about how modern America is dead and we need a national rebirth. America today is only America by name. Agreed with the traditional and family values.
-- In-depth Questions --
Q1: Never interviewed before.
Q2: Never been charged with any crimes. Never employed by the government.
Q3: No restricting physical or mental ailments.
Q4: When he first started getting into right wing stuff was after 2016. Used to not be into politics. Everything became super politicized in 2016. Saw a massive lgbt flag in his schoolroom, the teacher was pushing his agenda on kids. Moved away from Trump at that time because of his support for LGBT and Lady MAGA, realized he wasn’t actually right wing. One of his school friends introduced him to Yukio Mishima, who wanted to restore Japanese government to imperial values. Got him into ultra-nationalist. Friend also showed him a book called Bronze Age Mindset, which he found interesting. He looks up to BAP (the author). Listened to Nick Fuentes for a while but stopped because he’s controlled opposition, with the way he words things and talks about optics, and because he believes in the holocaust.
Q5: Was watching a video on telegram of ours, it was nighttime and we were chanting Reclaim America and lighting flares – on Bitchute. Saw our activities, thought they were cool.
Q6: Has heard of civic nationalism – it’s a neo-modern nationalism, weak nationalism. Migratory foreigners cannot become American. There’s an ethnic component to being American – being Teutonic. Founding fathers wanted America to be free nation of White Men.
Q7: Has American ancestry past the civil war. Mom’s side is Norwegian/Anglo-Irish. Dad’s side is Irish. He lived in the UK for 7 years. Always considered himself White.
Q8: Never done activism in the past. Wanted to get into activism to find a higher purpose. Would imagine himself helping in general – help us put up posters, go to marches, going to meetings, training. Has like-minded friends online.
Q9: Believes violence is justified in self-defense. Understands and agrees with violence statement.
Q10: Never been in a physical confrontation.
Q11: Has 2-3 days free in a typical week – would allow for weekly meetings.
Q12: Thinks leftist movement or Jewish menace are the biggest threat to America. Some people who aren’t Jews work for them. Jews control media, money, politics, congress, Biden’s cabinet, military generals.
Q13: Uses YouTube and Telegram and Snapchat and Discord. Mainly Telegram for politics; sun and Steel, the tullern fellow, Cascadia, Voluntarist memes, Whites against loxism, the catholic integralist.
Q14: He is a fascist, because fascism is broad enough to encompass all of his beliefs. Fascism has respect for religion, nation, and tradition. His mom is divorced two times and living with a guy she isn’t married to, he doesn’t like that. That influenced him towards traditionalism. Need something strong to combat degeneracy.
Q15: Never felt religion and politics were at odds. Fransico Franco, Hitler, Mussolini were supportive of the church. Neo-fascism today is different. Doesn’t know much about different brands of fascism, based on classic fascism and supportive of the church.
Q16: Reading Peter Kamp – War of Trouble, bronze age mindset, and sun and steel. Sun and Steel talks about the beauty of youth, connects us with honor and tradition. The author stood up for his country, tradition, and blood.
Q17: Works out every day for over an hour except for Sundays. Every day he does a half mile run, 150 pushups, ten pullups, and then a major muscle group. He is 5’11” 150 lbs.
Q18: Ideal family structure is the traditional one. A mother, father, and children. Grandparents too. Today divorce rates are going up. There are cases of single moms pushing ideology on their kids. There are transgender children, homosexual partnerships with children. Thinks homosexuality, transsexuality, pornography, and promiscuity are degenerate sins. His mom was a single mom, his dad left at around 3 years old.
Q19: Admires George Rockwell because he was a more accustomed to our time, wasn’t concerned about dividing people religiously.
Q20: Despises the guy who Andrew Jackson killed, because he was a Rothschild Agent: Charles Dickenson.
Q21: Biggest issue with nationalism is defining America. People have different loyalties to different Americas. The real America is dead. What we can do is spread awareness about the movement by putting out flyers, making videos, and all that. PF is a means of reaching these goals. You need to organize to create and spread awareness.
Q22: Sees himself moving to Florida. Working in cybersecurity, getting ready to have a family and getting his own home.
MI is getting big
why is this nibba moving to florida, very cringe
past few applicants have been retards, so hopefully this one is good
His mom lives there
Kek
I see
how did he seem, like his vibe?
He sounds okay, has an English accent because he lived there for 7 years
Interesting, I mean I guess that makes him pretty unlikely to be a fed then :rofl:
Has an Iraqi stepdad but he said he should be sent back to Iraq
yeah, thats interesting
That's why he's a "Chaldean" catholic - that's a Syrian/Iraqi thing
I understand
we'll get him taken care of
Based, how've you been doing lately?
Sorry I didn't get the notification because I had your dm open. I'm well, how are you brother?
Pretty good
I'm going to move to Iowa in December and try to create a network there
I figured since I know people all around the area it'd be perfect
@ND - Carter MO would love to hear about that.
Oh yeah, I'm living with him right now so we've been talking abou tit
Oh? I didn't know you were living with him. I hope things are going alright?
I guess I didn't tell you but my parents overhead me doing an interview. Gave me an ultimatum: Stop it or leave. I left that night.
Been living with Carter for almost a month now
If you have a cashapp that is safe for you to receive money from members on then give it to me right now.
I'm good, have a source of income
But thank you
Are you sure?
I want to help you. It is a grave evil that you have been force to leave your home preemptively.
I'll let you know, but I should be good for now
I'm looking forward to the future, I think Iowa has potential
If you ever need financial assistance do not hesitate to ask Thomas for help from the rest of the organization. If you need help but don't want to go that far the I demand that you let me know, and I will be able to send you some money as well as get some from other Michigan guys, and I will keep it anonymous if you'd prefer as well. You are a brother to me, and your loyalty and dedication is without question.
I think you are someone deserving of a future network directorship. You are a humble, fit, and dedicated individual with a great work ethic. I think you need work on being more assertive perhaps and maybe with public speaking (maybe not I've never seen you give a speech). Overall you have an excellent foundation for future leadership, and I would be honored to treat you as such one day.
Really appreciate that, I'm creating an outline of all the things I'm going to work on, and being assertive is definitely near the top of the list.
It is sometimes difficult when you're raised with proper manners and humility, but you will get good at it. If you ever need help I implore you to contact me.
I will definitely do that
We're all in the midwest and I'm hoping to do a lot of joint-actions with nearby states, including Michigan
There will be a very bright future for the Heartland if we have @ND - Carter MO in MO, @Sam MN in Iowa, myself in Michigan, and @ND - Ryan OH in Ohio.
I have not met @ND - Johnny MN yet, so its hard for me to give a judgment of him.
Based
You're coming to this next demo right? You should be able to meet Johnny then
9/10 attending
Just about everyone from Minnesota as well, it's going to be big
how many mn guys are there?
7, besides me
Sounds like there will be 30 plus Midwesterners there then.
Excellent
I'm thinking 30-40 actually. Based on my estimates.
Only me and Matthew went to Philly, so things are looking up
- from the MN area
What do you think leads to so many people joining in Michigan?
The first thing that's on my mind is how to increase our numbers in Iowa
So far I'm planning on doing 6 stickers run a week, a stenciling each week, and a banner drop every two weeks. Going fro high profile targets in hopes of news articles.
we have consistent high quality activism media. Focus on quality not just quantity. We have only done like 4 banner drops this year, but we've stenciled probably 1-2 times a month every month, and each time we stencil we do 2-4 cities. Make sure the footage you get is usable for telegram posts and the AR.
Now, doing more activism will always help with increasing the applicant rate, but it won't help as much as we may like to think. I've spoken to multiple ND's about this, and they have all said that you really can't do much about increasing applicant rate, but you can do a lot to have good retention. Retention is what I have focused on over doing tons of high level stuff to get attention. The only actions which boost application rate are high publicity actions like our blm coverup or like the MO FBI Billboard cover up. The thing is, you can't expect your cluster/network to do that kind of high level stuff frequently. There are two main reasons.
1. its hard. A lot of time, risk, money, and organizing goes into planning and actually doing these actions.
2. If you do that kind of stuff on a regular basis then the feds are gonna get way more active in your area. The police aren't gonna investigate low level activism or one off big things every now and then, but if you do big stuff every 2 months or less then you will be under much higher scrutiny. The police will take much higher note of even small things IF you're doing regular high risk high publicity stuff. New guys will sometimes get really afraid of stupid stuff like them tracking fingerprints off stickers. That obviously never happens, but if it were to, it would be after the police are told by higher-ups that the guys in X state need to be caught because of all this big stuff.
Basically my point is that big things like our blm coverup are impactful for recruitment, but you can't do too much of it. You gotta be careful.
Good points, I'll factor all that in. I especially agree on how important retention is.
Thats something @ND - Ryan OH told me early on, and it has worked.
wtf
What did he lie about?
I just replied "Okay."
Could you ask him more questions, I want to know what we missed and how to avoid it in the future
yes
If you're friendly and understanding we may get some details out of him
Why was he trying to join
What did he lie about
Kek, just right out with it
Might be worth it to lead him on, ask if he would consider membership at some point in the future
hes not white is what i'm gathering
Off
Oof
Good info, I guess the religion should've made us more skeptical, he said his step-dad was Iraqi
Yes, I am familiar with Chaldean people, so when he said that he was that religion I was instantly skeptical.
It was the first time I ever heard of it
they're essentially high caste arabs
Well, sorry to get your hopes up for a new guy, but I'm sure someone else is in the works with how many people are applying in your state!
You're fine, not your fault at all.
just a halfsie self deluding himself.
The horrors of miscegenation, imagine what this guy goes through in terms of confusion about his identity.
he even brought it up himself, as you saw
you free to chat in mumble?
sure, one sec
Okay, just told him
Hello, you are being contacted because you have been deemed an appropriate representative to participate in the Evaluation Process for an Intermediate who has been interviewed. The Interview record and instructions for meeting the Intermediate will follow this message.
If you are capable of meeting the Intermediate within exactly two weeks, and do not choose to protest this assignment immediately, the responsibility for this Intermediate is transferred to you. Message the Intermediate on the Interview Server immediately. Do not contact them or discuss vetting details on any platforms or apps other than the Interview Server. If you do not have access to the Interview Server, please contact leadership to attain access.
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*Please message Jason NY when you have met with the interviewee.
Interviewee-238337
28/MI/Detroit
12/6/2021
Conductor: Sam_MN
Notetaker: Randolph IL
Accepted
Test Q: How long ago did you send in your application? October 29
-- Applicant Information --
Personal Transportation: Yes
Permanent Resident: No plans to move
Political Ideology: Right leaning defiantly. Doesn't consider himself a conservative. Not allowed to express his true feelings because he would be rejected from society. Is a National Socialist. Is sick and tired seeing this world burn and wants to take action to stop it. The media lies about everything. Everyone is a degenerate piece of shit. Wants to change that. Thinks PF is the way.
Drug Abuse: None
Religion: Dabbled in Christianity. Agnostic. Doesn't deny God.
Why Join: Wants to be active and wake people up.
Skills: Mechanically inclined. Handy with tools. Can show up and do what needs to done.
Read Manifesto: Yes. A month ago. Talked about who founded and built the country. White people. Is ok with other races being here. Would be in favor of segregation or some sort of separation.
-- In-depth Questions --
Q1: Never interviewed
Q2: No crimes or government employment.
Q3: No ailments
Q4: Found "The greatest story never told" and "Europa the last battle" and started finding streamers like Gypsy Crusader and HT from Goyam TV. Saw some pro NS stuff on YouTube before it was all scrubbed.
Q5: Found us on telegram. Activism like spray paintings, banner drops and the recent DC march. Wants to be part of that.
Q6: Migratory foreigners cannot become Americans. There is an ethic component to being and American. History shows that white people have created the best civilizations. Founding father knew what they where dong when the excluded other races.
Q7: Background is mostly French. Doesn't know a lot about his family history. All of his grandparents where Americans. Ethnically 100% white.
Q8: Has never done activism in the past. Has a couple like minded friends. Can do all of the activism. Is a father and his daughter comes first.
Q9: Violence is justified only if someone is violent towards you. Violence should not be initiated. Understands and agrees with violence statement.
Q10: Last physical confrontation was in HS
Q11: Works Mornings to mid day. Afternoons and weekends are always free. Can make weekly meetings.
Q12: Biggest threat to America is the media that is being used to make everyone into easily controlled zombies. The Jews run the news
Q13: Gets info from Gab and Telegram: The hammer, Western Chauvinist, NJP, Warren Balogh, Red Ice TV. mainstream news is all trash.
Q14: Label is National Socialist.
Q15: Religious beliefs are not at odds with political beliefs.
Q16: Started Mein Kampf recently. It is very well written and has enjoyed it so far. Recently got introduced to Antelope hill.
Q17: 170ibs, 6ft tall. Is fit. Does physical labor. Can run mile in under 10 min
Q18: Ideal family structure would be the nuclear family. One man and woman. Today there are gay and interracial families all over the country and on tv. Men aren't men or good fathers. Raided by a single mom. Thinks homosexuality, porn and transsexuality should all be banned.
Q19: Admires George Lincoln Rockwell. He was ahead of his time. He was 100% correct.
Q20: Despises Bill Gates. Would love to throw him in a camp.
Q21: Nationalist movement in America is full of keyboard warriors and not taking action. People are too comfortable. PF takes real world action.
Q22: Would like to be living in a better society that will be kind to his daughter.
what did you think of the michigan guy you and @Randolph IL just vetted who had previously been Johnny mi?
basically where is he on the retardometer?
He seems fine honestly. Not a sperg but reasonably intelligent. Well spoken and agreeable.
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