But neither system is based around two ideologies is the thing

Left/right isn't an ideology.

It's a label for ideological positions

An umbrella term if you will

Real Gamers know this

But it doesn't work

It's a system of values compiled through a spectrum

Right but nobody can name a consistent set of values

Oof has worked its way into my daily vocabulary.

Or plot ideologies consistently as per those sets

It's embarassing, in a way.

So a right wing party is pro traditionalism, constitutionalism, etc

A left wing party would be pro secularism, social programs, etc

Those are non exclusionary

You can be secular, support the constitution, support social programs and value tradition

You can adopt a wide variety of ideologies under one banner without being cornered

And then, the people in the party can say "I'm a constitutionalist", or " I'm a socialist"

Further, what was no child left behind, as poor a plam as it was? And alt right memestate enthusiasts will often advocate a heavy welfare state

That's the thing. The lines are unclear

Aren't alt right people national socialists?

Not all, but altleast the ethnostatists

Some of them might be yes, and a heavy social welfare state is lefty

technocratic monarchy is the best, prove me wrong

So what's the righty aspect?

The alt right isn't a good example here

Even ethnonationalists aren't necessarily natsocs.

It's a perfect example

Because where do they go?

Vernacular recommendation: we need words more relative to the Overton window, and not the political compass.

They didn't start off this way. A bunch of nazis took over the actual alt right.

Okay, but where do you put Nazis?

The Alt-Right was Poland

Radical centrists

The Nazis annexed it

The nazis are radical centrists.

And the media basically said 'sure, they can have THAT title...'

What right wing positions do they have?

Monarchy

Closed borders

I'm not buying Monarchy as 'right'

Monarchy is an authoritarian branch.