Message from @faultfiction
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Operating in the free market contains competition, there's always competition. So of course people go out of business all the time.
cool so if i keep becoming larger and larger it should be fine
as long as i don't use force
to thwart my competition
As long as you don't use any sort of force or threat thereof.
and become a monopoly
its still fine
as long as i dont use force
You keep saying "it's fine". But that's not my argument. My argument is that that's how capitalism works.
I'm only saying how it works, not whether it's all good and fine.
cool
if theres no regulation and no force, monopolies can exist and it'd be fine
Monopolies exist either way. In fact in a socialist setting there are much greater monopolies, while at the same time people being worse off overall.
capitalist mode of production doesn't exist in a socialist society
there's no surplus
That's a fancy way of saying socialism creates starvation.
socialist societies ideally form after the success of capitalist societies, with the capital and technological advancement achieved it moves towards a more co-operative societies
thats just the theory
Socialist societies ideally don't form at all. They destroy the market.
markets exist regardless
Yeah sure. But in one version you complain about monopolies, in the other version you complain about starvation. I know which I prefer.
im not complaining. Im just saying free markets don't exist.
100% free anything doesn't exist
There are markets that are less regulated than others, for example that of the US
And for some reason the US is one of if not the greatest economic power in the world
Monopolies and all
Markets are more freerer in Europe than in the states
take broadband for instance
Fuck the free market
oh that guy that died from covid in the UK wasnt too far from me :/
corporatism now
What, collectively?
I'm pretty sure every government does that, regardless of political affiliation
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An executive told BBC business editor Simon Jack: "Matt Hancock has totally made up what he said about working with supermarkets. We haven't heard anything from government directly."