I didn't say anything about morals, I'm talking about the mechanics. It is capitalism if it's done that way.

im talking about the free market principles here

theres no state intervention

it's just the markets working with me to overthrow you

they shall

NOT BE INFRINGED

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The result of another company going out of business if my own company succeeds is only a consequence, it's not a cause-and-effect chain. I do not make other companies go out of business by being successful myself.

also nah I'm not that libertarian laissez-faire really

just thought saying that would be funny

Operating in the free market contains competition, there's always competition. So of course people go out of business all the time.

cool so if i keep becoming larger and larger it should be fine

as long as i don't use force

to thwart my competition

As long as you don't use any sort of force or threat thereof.

and become a monopoly

its still fine

as long as i dont use force

You keep saying "it's fine". But that's not my argument. My argument is that that's how capitalism works.

I'm only saying how it works, not whether it's all good and fine.

cool

if theres no regulation and no force, monopolies can exist and it'd be fine

Monopolies exist either way. In fact in a socialist setting there are much greater monopolies, while at the same time people being worse off overall.

capitalist mode of production doesn't exist in a socialist society

there's no surplus

That's a fancy way of saying socialism creates starvation.

socialist societies ideally form after the success of capitalist societies, with the capital and technological advancement achieved it moves towards a more co-operative societies

thats just the theory

Socialist societies ideally don't form at all. They destroy the market.

markets exist regardless

have been for thousands of years

Yeah sure. But in one version you complain about monopolies, in the other version you complain about starvation. I know which I prefer.

im not complaining. Im just saying free markets don't exist.

100% free anything doesn't exist

There are markets that are less regulated than others, for example that of the US

And for some reason the US is one of if not the greatest economic power in the world

Monopolies and all

Markets are more freerer in Europe than in the states

take broadband for instance

Fuck the free market

oh that guy that died from covid in the UK wasnt too far from me :/