Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-24 18:49:41 UTC  

but they are not intented to be taken literally by anyone except the most stupid

2018-10-24 18:49:44 UTC  

Israel is a much more religious country than say Colombia, why is Colombia more shit? I don't think it has to do with being more religious.

2018-10-24 18:49:45 UTC  

so quit doing it

2018-10-24 18:49:47 UTC  

stupid

2018-10-24 18:49:48 UTC  

Heres the thing,

We can burn all holy books, and science books today

And in 200 years, all the science books will say the exact same facts

The religious books will say something different

2018-10-24 18:50:11 UTC  

But, we can also test the psychological impact of religious belief, which some of the most famous psychologists, like Carl Jung, have done.

2018-10-24 18:50:16 UTC  

Unless you know, science changes and discovers they were wrong on something

2018-10-24 18:50:23 UTC  

i said facts, not theories

2018-10-24 18:50:44 UTC  

theories can change

2018-10-24 18:51:08 UTC  

genders can not

2018-10-24 18:51:10 UTC  

I think people conflate the scientific method with the current body of scientific knowledge.

2018-10-24 18:51:16 UTC  

\o> dab

2018-10-24 18:51:31 UTC  

Religion is an aspect of a culture

2018-10-24 18:51:31 UTC  

Science books will look very different. There is a lot that we define in arbitrary manners.

2018-10-24 18:51:44 UTC  

currently yes

2018-10-24 18:51:44 UTC  

So of course religion changes

2018-10-24 18:51:58 UTC  

exactly, but science doesn't

2018-10-24 18:52:02 UTC  

```Heres the thing,

We can burn all holy books, and science books today

And in 200 years, all the science books will say the exact same facts

The religious books will say something different```

I can see why you'd think that, but there is much commonality when it comes to major religions, the basic teachings are very similar cross culturally and given that religion developed in every society on Earth, it'd probably be back in different flavors but a similar message.

2018-10-24 18:52:23 UTC  

so they'll say something different 😮

2018-10-24 18:52:37 UTC  

Different views of the same truth

2018-10-24 18:52:38 UTC  

Yes, there are psychological aspects to religion that are surprisingly common cross culturally.

2018-10-24 18:52:46 UTC  

religion offers no truth, thats why its a religion

2018-10-24 18:52:46 UTC  

That is why I find Carl Jung so interesting.

2018-10-24 18:52:47 UTC  

Gnosticism and Dharmism share essentially the same fundamental principles

2018-10-24 18:52:50 UTC  

dvir is just using the common tactic to keep trowing spagets at the wall till one sticks, spagets being platitudes heard and talked about dozens of times before

2018-10-24 18:52:54 UTC  

its gay

2018-10-24 18:53:00 UTC  

and wasteful of food

2018-10-24 18:53:00 UTC  

The stories are different, but the base truth, the message is very similar

2018-10-24 18:53:07 UTC  

thats cuz he has no argument cythos

2018-10-24 18:53:09 UTC  

You do the same exact thing hypocrite

2018-10-24 18:53:19 UTC  

Science will only reproduce the same theorems if permitted to do so.

2018-10-24 18:53:27 UTC  

lmao

2018-10-24 18:53:27 UTC  

I would call him more Gnostic than occult

2018-10-24 18:53:34 UTC  

Science can easily be suborned to political ends.

2018-10-24 18:53:40 UTC  

^

2018-10-24 18:53:57 UTC  

People keep conflating institutions, the scientific method, and the current body of scientific knowledge.

2018-10-24 18:53:58 UTC  

but the undeniable facts can't be undone

2018-10-24 18:54:05 UTC  

What remains static is the scientific method.

2018-10-24 18:54:16 UTC  

If i rub my hands to create friction -> heat

Its not gonna change as a scientific principle for anotehr 200 years atleast