Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-24 19:05:05 UTC  

You don't use the scientific method for religion because religion isn't a science.

2018-10-24 19:05:11 UTC  

We both know, that those in power can compel "truth"

But no matter what they want they can't compel facts

That is why post-modernism is falling appart at every turn

2018-10-24 19:05:23 UTC  

Right, which is why I keep making the distinction between knowledge and scientific method.

2018-10-24 19:05:25 UTC  

Because you can't "Want" reality to change

2018-10-24 19:05:42 UTC  

The body of scientific knowledge and the amount I was able to verify is always imperfect.

2018-10-24 19:05:55 UTC  

But the scientific METHOD has proven itself in myriads of scenarios.

2018-10-24 19:06:06 UTC  

they're not falling apart. they might very well win. this fight is nowhere close to won.

2018-10-24 19:06:09 UTC  

So even though I do not have perfect knowledge, I have an ALGORITHM by which to proceed.

2018-10-24 19:06:35 UTC  

they will keep fighting, by any means necessary, forever.

2018-10-24 19:06:39 UTC  

yes

2018-10-24 19:06:41 UTC  

Let's say you programmed a robot:

2018-10-24 19:06:48 UTC  

but their "dreams" are incompatible with reality

2018-10-24 19:06:54 UTC  

so they'll never be able to achieve them

2018-10-24 19:06:54 UTC  

make it exterminate humanity

2018-10-24 19:07:00 UTC  

You can program a path navigation, but you can never test the robot in all conceivable environments.

2018-10-24 19:07:14 UTC  

Still, you can program a robot that does a decent job at navigating a room.

2018-10-24 19:07:18 UTC  

I have programmed such robots.

2018-10-24 19:07:23 UTC  

Its like trannies,

They might look like it,
They might act like it,
They might believe they are,

But they are not the other biological sex

2018-10-24 19:07:29 UTC  

hypocrit that you are, for you trust the same chemicals in your head to tell you they are chemicals

will you fight? or will you perish like a dog?

2018-10-24 19:07:39 UTC  

The algorithm is the scientific method - the specific rooms are akin to the knowledge and scenarios that I have tested.

2018-10-24 19:07:50 UTC  

Once I have test a lot of rooms, I get more confident. Do I have certainty? No.

2018-10-24 19:07:58 UTC  

because they factually aren't

2018-10-24 19:08:28 UTC  

even in failure post-modernists cause massive pain and suffering and threaten the entire world. the soviet union was the direct result of post-modern philosophy and not only did they kill millions, they very nearly destroyed the earth on several occasions.

2018-10-24 19:08:40 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-24 19:08:45 UTC  

and they never got their dream

2018-10-24 19:09:12 UTC  

isn't it even a communist motto?

"If you die from startvation, you just didn't want to live enough"?

2018-10-24 19:09:24 UTC  

lmao just dab on starvation

2018-10-24 19:09:27 UTC  

just eat xD

2018-10-24 19:10:47 UTC  

This topic will not go anywhere if discussed in this way. You can do good and bad things in the name of science and in the name of religion.

If we want to make sensible comparisons, we have to discuss its methods.

2018-10-24 19:11:12 UTC  

religion gives people a purpose greater than their own

2018-10-24 19:11:24 UTC  

for people who can't think of a purpose for themselves

2018-10-24 19:11:30 UTC  

What is our standard? My standard is how accurate each is at making sense of reality.

2018-10-24 19:11:40 UTC  

i dono i think its kinda the other way around

2018-10-24 19:11:44 UTC  

ideas have people

2018-10-24 19:11:52 UTC  

lol transgenderism as a social construct

2018-10-24 19:11:54 UTC  

The scientific method has an undeniable track record and where it conflicts with religion should supersede it.

2018-10-24 19:11:54 UTC  

checkmate

2018-10-24 19:12:26 UTC  

The scientific institutions, on the other hand, and our scientific knowledge, is imperfect. We have gender studies.

2018-10-24 19:12:41 UTC  

It is the difference between algorithm and implementation.

2018-10-24 19:12:42 UTC  

but thats the result of post-modernism which me and atkins discussed just now

2018-10-24 19:12:55 UTC  

A sorting implementation can be wrong, but it's algorithm, on paper, can still be correct.