Message from @snake

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2020-03-06 03:48:51 UTC  

Let me assure you, your far left are about as far removed from individualism as it can get

2020-03-06 03:49:21 UTC  

Ok but the left/right division of politics is retarded so if I’m “left wing” whatever

2020-03-06 03:49:42 UTC  

How little you know of us. Most of the history of civilization (which started in 1776) is the history of pushing the barbarian horde out of our continent. 2 wars with the British. We bought out the French and the Ruskies. We then went to war with the Spanish and kicked their ass so hard we ended up in the Philippines. Which was confusing because WTF are we going to do with the Philippines?

At the beginning of the second ~~mad attempt by the barbarians to kill each other possibly interrupting commerce~~ World war we traded Town Class Destroyers for the last military bases the Europeans had on our side of the planet.

2020-03-06 03:49:44 UTC  

I just don't want people forcing kids into something they are not...is that so hard to get?

2020-03-06 03:50:37 UTC  

You forgot to mention that time we mass migrated to Mexico and seceded, then conquered half their country which as a Texan I think is epic

2020-03-06 03:50:55 UTC  

Well and I don't want an irresponsible populace to have the right to take part in the mob rule process

2020-03-06 03:51:32 UTC  

But the government is meant to fight for the majority correct? This is a government for the majority.

2020-03-06 03:51:55 UTC  

Government does whatever it can to consolidate its power. It has no other purpose than that.

2020-03-06 03:52:07 UTC  

But government is the will of the people no?

2020-03-06 03:52:10 UTC  

Hardly forgot. But it is worth remembering that the largest 'migration' of Mexicans to the US happened when we *annexed* them. Not that I am against such a thing. Unlike Yurip Mexicans have normal civilized shit like cowboys...

2020-03-06 03:52:22 UTC  

Nah it's really not, and it never was.

2020-03-06 03:52:44 UTC  

Government is separate from the country, and the sooner people understand that the sooner we can rid ourselves of their mafia shit.

2020-03-06 03:58:06 UTC  

But brood the issue is with your philosophy is that you would allow too much.

2020-03-06 03:59:29 UTC  

Maybe, I'm not gonna claim I have all the answers.

2020-03-06 04:00:21 UTC  

The way I see it, individualism won't happen anyway. There are too many collectivists, or people who get fooled by that idea.

2020-03-06 04:00:38 UTC  

So it'll be an eternal struggle between twose two ideas.

2020-03-06 04:01:23 UTC  

But that black pill won't make me give up on individualism. It just means I gotta think strategically.

2020-03-06 04:02:33 UTC  

As long as there's a sort of stalemate where collectivism doesn't rule I'm sort of ok with things going the way they do.

2020-03-06 04:04:48 UTC  

I think the reason you’re failing is because you aren’t accounting for the amount of chaos happening now days. People become more group focused when the situation becomes unstable.

2020-03-06 04:05:50 UTC  

Yep, that's the reason why I try to think strategically. Trying to predict what will happen next, trying to prepare for it, trying to influence it a little.

2020-03-06 04:06:50 UTC  

I wouldn’t fret too much m8. I don’t think you’ll lose your human rights. I think people are just becoming aware that they’re collectively are under attack.

2020-03-06 04:08:32 UTC  

A few years ago I asked some of my US-based friends to fight for their gun rights because it's the last bastion of freedom. If the US falls, that'd be a symbolic loss that would have huge consequences.

2020-03-06 04:09:26 UTC  

Gun rights are not going, if they do, then we deserve what happens to us. At a certain point we’ve become so liberal we just won’t fight anymore, so if we’re that Much of a bitch then I couldn’t have the nerve to feel bad

2020-03-06 04:09:53 UTC  

Americans had to fight for their gun rights before. It might have to be done again.

2020-03-06 04:10:09 UTC  

It's not a matter of "deserve" imo.

2020-03-06 04:11:12 UTC  

In Europe we have a kind of saying, that we Europeans "earn" money, but Americans "make" money.
That difference in the mindset is pretty important. It concerns gun rights as well.

2020-03-06 04:12:30 UTC  

Back then I've adopted the "maker" mindset and it has helped me a lot in life. Some of my family has the maker mindset, and some don't. The ones who fare better have the maker mindset. It's undeniably better.

2020-03-06 13:13:02 UTC  
2020-03-06 13:32:29 UTC  

Actually related because of the Turkish move to send more invaders into Greece.

2020-03-06 13:35:12 UTC  

mass migration has always been a weapon, there are heaps of examples of Empires relocation thousands of ethnic minorities to another part of the Empire to form a buffer state or to dilute a country's unity. Most recently we've seen it with Turkey moving Syrians into Rojava to weaken Kurdish hegemony over the region

2020-03-06 14:25:44 UTC  

...usually *following* a conquest, not preceding it

2020-03-06 14:49:15 UTC  

Turkey hasn't begun moving Syrian refugees back into areas conquered from the Kurds though

2020-03-06 14:49:50 UTC  

But they have had their Syrian proxies set up shop in Afrin

2020-03-06 14:52:36 UTC  

@Coolitic usually because the nation/group being replaced understands what’s going on and don’t particularly want it to happen

2020-03-06 15:00:57 UTC  

I think the simpler explanation is extortion. Turkey wants the EU to write them a check. Unfortunate timing as the EU just lost one of their largest sources of income.....

2020-03-06 15:06:31 UTC  

Yeah, because turkey just wants money...

2020-03-06 15:06:54 UTC  

Turkey is like DSP

Both are roaches, and they NEED the money
>insert le epic DSP meme here

2020-03-06 15:08:03 UTC  

Turkey has already been given money

2020-03-06 15:10:17 UTC  

3 billion

2020-03-06 15:15:39 UTC  

Should never have done that