Sorry, jf kept retreating to alternative fictional universes where he was right because he wasnt right in the current one. He couldnt admit rape is wrong and he accepted he is on the same moral standing as a child rapist. That's a complete defeat. You dont get to the point where your ideology excuses child rape and get to say you "won" anything.

Rape being wrong is not subjective. Its objective. Because if rape wasnt wrong it wouldnt be rape. It's a contradiction.

All judgements are subjective.

Well I just explained how that's wrong. Rape is objectively bad because if its consensual it's not rape.

There is no good rape.

Is your argument that lack of consent makes something inherently bad?

Muhammad would like a word with you

muhammad is immoral.

From what I know, children aren't consenting to adults feeding them whatever they put on the table. Yet we don't consider that bad.

feeding isn't rape.

But your argument is that rape is bad because it's not consent.

@bandet I'm a Perennial Traditionalist and do believe that there are objective grounds for morality, but all I'm saying is that the particular debate was won by JF since his arguments were more sound and not properly addressed by Molyneux.

@ETBrooD define rape

If you're arguing that only the lack of consent is what makes something bad, then you'd have to consider many other things bad, too.

Including children not having a choice in the matter of what food they eat.

In fact the 4 things listed by Molyneux which formed the basis for his moral theory were very much common throughout history and still are in many different civilizations

murder was constant throughout history. not moral.

Murder was, at times, considered morally acceptable, even admirable.

and the people who consider murder moral are not moral

It also doesn't matter what the majority thinks, that's not what makes something moral or immoral.

im sure theres an alternate universe where jf won, but it isn't this one!

Winning an argument is not about whether your views are ultimately right or wrong, but whether you can reason your argument better than your opponent.

@ETBrooD no its about if you can call him a nazi before he calls you one

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@Monstrous Moonshine I am actually 24 with a 100k usd car and my own home. And a hot girlfriend currently. I did dump 7 girls last year. Mistyped 25 it seems like. Seethe more

@Eden KYS, fag

@ETBrooD You are a confused evading nihilist. Deal with reality and you will understand that a good life is good. There is only one truth that can be derived by looking at reality. It is hard to get there however.

Weeb faggot smh. The most disgusting of all.

> palaestra debates
> "I am superior to you"

Clearly, you can't read and determine the purpose of this text channel, fucking spammer asshole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z55TXWTRHW

Idc what the rules or purpose is. A debate is a debate.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/confirmed-fed-bailed-out-hedge-funds-facing-basis-trade-disaster

bailing out hedge funds LOL
The world has gone full retard
Nothing is allowed to fail. Zombie companies everywhere
Also lets shut down 50% of the economy due to a nothing burger oldfag and weak people killing virus
How about quarantining those at risk instead until we have a cure?
The idiotic response to this crisis is a result of the nihilism and altruism in the culture.

BKP 2.0

But an Ayn Rand fan, so even worse in many aspects

ford btfo with facts and logic

KYS larper

now fuck off you pokemon soyboy. You too disgusting weeb

both of you are disgusting larpers, honestly.

If we had a free market your kind would die out due to your own inability do deal with life

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