Message from @Blaster Master
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It makes sense to trust mathematics, but it'd be wrong to assume that any of our models will never fail, no matter how simplistic they are.
Key word: "never"
@Hexidecimark Can you elaborate on what do you mean by minor blindspots?
I’m just saying it’s retarded to get pedantic about going on about “oh you shouldn’t say it will **never** happen!” Anyway I gtg
Don't recall the exacting details from Formal Automata but IIRC the gist is that there are exceedingly fringe scenarios that any given number system must fail at representing
It's not pedantic, because it's the basis of science. When I say "it must be *possible* to prove a theory for it to be a scientifc theory", then that's at the core of all science.
@Hexidecimark Are you talking about Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem?
Science is, ultimately, a matter of probabilities. The best findings are the ones that have the highest probability of being correct.
YES thank you
Specifically that any sufficiently complex system cannot prove its own consistency
Just like the sun may not rise tomorrow, yes
In that aspect, yes, most Mathematical systems are faith based in a sense, in that we may find a contradiction in that system some day, rendering the entire system false
And the sun may also have never risen before, maybe that was all a worldwide illusion
But that doesn't matter for science. Realizing that nothing can ultimately be known doesn't change the fact that without the *possibility* of proof, science doesn't work.
Alright that nonsense is over with. Fun fact, the light time it takes for light to go from the sun to earth is 8 minutes and 31 seconds. So in 8 min and 31 sec during the day the light would just go out
Interestingly, more famous Mathematicians than Scientists have been Theists, including the one who proved the above theorem (Kurt Gödel)
That'd explain why that math student I used to know suddenly converted to Christianity. Although maybe it was the fact that his Christian gf was hot.
Ignore phattyreus. He's the resident pseudo-intellectual that cant cite sources but makes retarded claims to fear monger @ETBrooD
But muh 0.000000000000042% German ancestry!
@Hexidecimark @phadreus You guys debating Sigmund “I got a boner while watching my mother change clothes” Freud? <:smugon:512048583806025739> Have fun. <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
I see that MR is still butthurt.
Cry moarrrrr
Coronavirus killed Stefan's remaining hair <:why:462286147473637407>
now he is an egg
A balenced responce to the Corona Virus is necessary. The people are the economy and shutting down everything for more then 3 weeks will kill off thousands of small businesses, which will put even more people in the streets. Businesses are the employers and tax payers. Even the giant evil corporations could go under in less then a month. I'm all for "Fuck the GDP", a dip in value and productions is to be expected, but the attitude here is that people think we can go without incomes for weeks and everything will be better then the affects of Corona.
More people died of the flu last year but this is the reason to go back to the dark ages and tank the economy we will need to produce things like food, water, facemasks and so on. It's not just an arbitrary number, it represents things in the real world that people need. If you turn it off, it will never come back on. California and New York are going to go down the tubes and probably never fully recover for a long time. Take that, Donald Drumpf. The economy is bad now!
At least half the population thinks socialism is good. This kind of reasoning doesn't work on them. Many would rather see people starve or get shot than see their worldview shattered.
Chinese proverb (prob a curse) :
*May you live in interesting times!*
I think that “Half the population thinks socialism is good” stat came from a manipulatively-worded survey, I don’t think they outright asked “Do you think socialism is good?”
Most people are retarded.
End of argument
New York could recover in significantly less than a decade, doing better thereafter, if given a good dose of the ol' shock therapy at the end of this.
dat optimism doe
It's not optimistic at all. The estimate is very conservative and the chances of such an event coming to pass are so low I'd sooner buy lottery tickets.
The worst thing is
Both the left and the right are mostly against the idea of a lockdown, no matter if it becomes neccessary or not