Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-25 18:26:56 UTC  

I think post-modernism would disappear over night then.

2018-10-25 18:27:56 UTC  

Not a lot of critical reasoning and logic are taught to begin with

2018-10-25 18:28:09 UTC  

which sucks

2018-10-25 18:28:16 UTC  

I didn't take a philosophy class, let alone logic, until college.

2018-10-25 18:28:18 UTC  

That is way too late.

2018-10-25 18:28:31 UTC  

That stuff needs to be started in, like, middle school. At the latest.

2018-10-25 18:28:48 UTC  

^

2018-10-25 18:28:54 UTC  

@LotheronPrime dats a white liberal racis

2018-10-25 18:29:14 UTC  

As much as Europe sucks in other regards, this was pretty integral in the Netherlands.

2018-10-25 18:29:25 UTC  

You are taught mathematical proofs in high school there.

2018-10-25 18:29:28 UTC  

Is dat the redskin jersey also

2018-10-25 18:29:42 UTC  

That is an incredibly important skill to reason and make arguments.

2018-10-25 18:30:06 UTC  

Mathematical and logic proofs are the purest form of reasoning.

2018-10-25 18:30:12 UTC  

True

2018-10-25 18:30:23 UTC  

You can start with simple proofs, like showing that there are infinite prime numbers.

2018-10-25 18:30:28 UTC  

You deal with that kind of thing so often in the world

2018-10-25 18:30:40 UTC  

That's a very good place to start, because there are several proofs and easy enough for high schoolers to understand.

2018-10-25 18:31:14 UTC  

I really started learning logical proofs and flow when I started programming

2018-10-25 18:31:25 UTC  

but before that, I didn't know a whole lot

2018-10-25 18:31:26 UTC  

I got that kind of stuff in school when i was 10

2018-10-25 18:31:38 UTC  

It's also important, because it is a topic to which there are cut and dry answers, and not this wishy washy emotional debating we usually do.

2018-10-25 18:31:50 UTC  

Yep

2018-10-25 18:31:53 UTC  

I had never done any theorem proof in the US>

2018-10-25 18:32:01 UTC  

That was simply not part of High School.

2018-10-25 18:32:15 UTC  

very weird

2018-10-25 18:32:21 UTC  

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2018-10-25 18:32:45 UTC  

My school might have been bad, but most of my friends and the people I talk to now had neither.

2018-10-25 18:33:22 UTC  

I've always been homeschooled, so my mom made sure I got a proper education, so I'm lucky that way

2018-10-25 18:33:28 UTC  

u didnt get basic math and logic reasoning? :/

2018-10-25 18:33:37 UTC  

In Europe, but not in the US.

2018-10-25 18:33:42 UTC  

I was several classes ahead in the US

2018-10-25 18:33:45 UTC  

grades

2018-10-25 18:34:07 UTC  

We would do a lot of arithmetic, but no theorem proof.

2018-10-25 18:34:19 UTC  

Transformation of boolean statements, yes, but no method proof.

2018-10-25 18:34:32 UTC  

But method proof is the biggest hole that I see in people's reasoning nowadays.

2018-10-25 18:34:52 UTC  

They can argue specifics, but they seem unable to stay strictly rational when they have to generalize.

2018-10-25 18:35:10 UTC  

tbh i dont think that would help a lot anyway, i think its more a tempramental thing then anything else

2018-10-25 18:35:37 UTC  

Yes, but the market would quickly filter people like that out, if it was meritocratic.

2018-10-25 18:35:41 UTC  

Logic becomes a lot harder when you're dealing with generalizations for sure

2018-10-25 18:35:55 UTC  

It can also be easier at times.