Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-10-27 04:12:13 UTC  

We always assume that any intelligent life form tries to survive, but those things are hardcoded in us.

2018-10-27 04:12:19 UTC  

If we do not hardcode it, it won't be there.

2018-10-27 04:12:23 UTC  

As long as they are Legally a citizen of this nation, they should be given the same rights.

2018-10-27 04:12:25 UTC  

now if an E.T. legally enters, sure, its offpsinrg can be citizen, assuming we have any laws that cover non-humans

2018-10-27 04:12:29 UTC  

If a person doesn't care about dying could they just sit at a computer playing a MMO until they died?

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

That is what I am saying Paradox.

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

Yes.

2018-10-27 04:12:52 UTC  

Then those people don't encounter enough lag.

2018-10-27 04:12:58 UTC  

well @Undead Mockingbird i would argue, if the "AI" doesnt preserve its own "life" then its not Ai yet

2018-10-27 04:13:02 UTC  

it hasnt gained sentience

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

that we don't have laws for non-humans?

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

If we start our relationship with non-humans as hostile..... that would be bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:07 UTC  

so its just a program

2018-10-27 04:13:10 UTC  

It would create a cycle of hatred.

2018-10-27 04:13:12 UTC  

and thats not AI

2018-10-27 04:13:28 UTC  

Lifeforms are motivated by pleasure and pain. When you think about it, it all convreges to those basic categories:

Feels good, feels bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:42 UTC  

If we would not feel anything, we would just stop breathign, if it was not so automatic.

2018-10-27 04:13:50 UTC  

I think we should be focused on giving AI bodies.

2018-10-27 04:13:51 UTC  

It wouldn't hurt, we would not be afrid of dying.

2018-10-27 04:13:54 UTC  

it's like that one anime, it's about exchange

2018-10-27 04:13:58 UTC  

And restrict them not having bodies.

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

do this, get this, is worth?

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

I would gladly submit to an AI overlord's permanent MMO hibernation system

2018-10-27 04:14:08 UTC  

Because that is just a recipe for disaster.

2018-10-27 04:14:08 UTC  

There are conditions where you don't feel pain. People just break their legs.

2018-10-27 04:14:11 UTC  

provided I could have elf ears on the other side.

2018-10-27 04:14:14 UTC  

They have to teach themselves that it's bad.

2018-10-27 04:14:18 UTC  

Give AI artificial bodies.

2018-10-27 04:14:20 UTC  

Some walk on broken legs for weeks.

2018-10-27 04:14:33 UTC  

No pleasure/pain = no motivation

2018-10-27 04:14:57 UTC  

i disagree with that if you are limiting them to physical

2018-10-27 04:15:04 UTC  

Would you guys be okay with giving AI artificial bodies with the same physical limitations that humans have?

2018-10-27 04:15:13 UTC  

i dont think you could actually limit it

2018-10-27 04:15:16 UTC  

No, you can hard code pleasure and pain.

2018-10-27 04:15:18 UTC  

once we are talking real AI

2018-10-27 04:15:21 UTC  

It teaches them to respect humans and to understand us better.

2018-10-27 04:15:23 UTC  

they will break the limit

2018-10-27 04:15:30 UTC  

Presumably in fiction inefficiency creates some form of discomfort for an AI

2018-10-27 04:15:30 UTC  

For example, today's AIs work pretty much like that.

2018-10-27 04:15:38 UTC  

You hard code your goal states, what is good and bad.

2018-10-27 04:15:44 UTC  

Actually think about it... AI would be taught, not programmed.