Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-10-27 04:10:42 UTC  

As long as they are same or above human intelligence.

2018-10-27 04:10:51 UTC  

i disagree, illegal aliens offspring shouldn't be citizens

2018-10-27 04:10:56 UTC  

We do things because we have drive and motivation.

2018-10-27 04:11:00 UTC  

I am not talking about illegal immigrants.

2018-10-27 04:11:07 UTC  

Our drives are rooted in feelings of pleasure and pain.

2018-10-27 04:11:11 UTC  

I am talking about Non-humans.

2018-10-27 04:11:21 UTC  

what's the difference?

2018-10-27 04:11:23 UTC  

still illegal

2018-10-27 04:11:26 UTC  

But an AI with no drive would not do anything. It would just drift through space.

2018-10-27 04:11:33 UTC  

There are many motivations. A motivation to move to a better computer could be one.

2018-10-27 04:11:35 UTC  

Illegal means they crossed the border without going through port of entry.

2018-10-27 04:11:47 UTC  

no, it means they didn't legally enter

2018-10-27 04:11:56 UTC  

oh, well, i guess that's what u said

2018-10-27 04:11:58 UTC  

@Malt_Hitman Yes, but where should that motivation come from? If it does not care about dying, it might just sit there.

2018-10-27 04:12:02 UTC  

either way, same deal.

2018-10-27 04:12:13 UTC  

We always assume that any intelligent life form tries to survive, but those things are hardcoded in us.

2018-10-27 04:12:19 UTC  

If we do not hardcode it, it won't be there.

2018-10-27 04:12:23 UTC  

As long as they are Legally a citizen of this nation, they should be given the same rights.

2018-10-27 04:12:25 UTC  

now if an E.T. legally enters, sure, its offpsinrg can be citizen, assuming we have any laws that cover non-humans

2018-10-27 04:12:29 UTC  

If a person doesn't care about dying could they just sit at a computer playing a MMO until they died?

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

That is what I am saying Paradox.

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

Yes.

2018-10-27 04:12:52 UTC  

Then those people don't encounter enough lag.

2018-10-27 04:12:58 UTC  

well @Undead Mockingbird i would argue, if the "AI" doesnt preserve its own "life" then its not Ai yet

2018-10-27 04:13:02 UTC  

it hasnt gained sentience

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

that we don't have laws for non-humans?

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

If we start our relationship with non-humans as hostile..... that would be bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:07 UTC  

so its just a program

2018-10-27 04:13:10 UTC  

It would create a cycle of hatred.

2018-10-27 04:13:12 UTC  

and thats not AI

2018-10-27 04:13:28 UTC  

Lifeforms are motivated by pleasure and pain. When you think about it, it all convreges to those basic categories:

Feels good, feels bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:42 UTC  

If we would not feel anything, we would just stop breathign, if it was not so automatic.

2018-10-27 04:13:50 UTC  

I think we should be focused on giving AI bodies.

2018-10-27 04:13:51 UTC  

It wouldn't hurt, we would not be afrid of dying.

2018-10-27 04:13:54 UTC  

it's like that one anime, it's about exchange

2018-10-27 04:13:58 UTC  

And restrict them not having bodies.

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

do this, get this, is worth?

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

I would gladly submit to an AI overlord's permanent MMO hibernation system

2018-10-27 04:14:08 UTC  

Because that is just a recipe for disaster.

2018-10-27 04:14:08 UTC  

There are conditions where you don't feel pain. People just break their legs.

2018-10-27 04:14:11 UTC  

provided I could have elf ears on the other side.