Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-10-27 04:10:20 UTC  

True

2018-10-27 04:10:24 UTC  

That is why I think if Humans create new species and races... they should get the same rights if they are like us in intelligence.

2018-10-27 04:10:36 UTC  

If an AI has no motivation, it could be the most intelligent being in the universe, but it would simply stare at the wall.

We always assume it would have motivation. BUt AI's don't get hungry.

2018-10-27 04:10:42 UTC  

As long as they are same or above human intelligence.

2018-10-27 04:10:51 UTC  

i disagree, illegal aliens offspring shouldn't be citizens

2018-10-27 04:10:56 UTC  

We do things because we have drive and motivation.

2018-10-27 04:11:00 UTC  

I am not talking about illegal immigrants.

2018-10-27 04:11:07 UTC  

Our drives are rooted in feelings of pleasure and pain.

2018-10-27 04:11:11 UTC  

I am talking about Non-humans.

2018-10-27 04:11:21 UTC  

what's the difference?

2018-10-27 04:11:23 UTC  

still illegal

2018-10-27 04:11:26 UTC  

But an AI with no drive would not do anything. It would just drift through space.

2018-10-27 04:11:33 UTC  

There are many motivations. A motivation to move to a better computer could be one.

2018-10-27 04:11:35 UTC  

Illegal means they crossed the border without going through port of entry.

2018-10-27 04:11:47 UTC  

no, it means they didn't legally enter

2018-10-27 04:11:56 UTC  

oh, well, i guess that's what u said

2018-10-27 04:11:58 UTC  

@Malt_Hitman Yes, but where should that motivation come from? If it does not care about dying, it might just sit there.

2018-10-27 04:12:02 UTC  

either way, same deal.

2018-10-27 04:12:13 UTC  

We always assume that any intelligent life form tries to survive, but those things are hardcoded in us.

2018-10-27 04:12:19 UTC  

If we do not hardcode it, it won't be there.

2018-10-27 04:12:23 UTC  

As long as they are Legally a citizen of this nation, they should be given the same rights.

2018-10-27 04:12:25 UTC  

now if an E.T. legally enters, sure, its offpsinrg can be citizen, assuming we have any laws that cover non-humans

2018-10-27 04:12:29 UTC  

If a person doesn't care about dying could they just sit at a computer playing a MMO until they died?

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

That is what I am saying Paradox.

2018-10-27 04:12:36 UTC  

Yes.

2018-10-27 04:12:52 UTC  

Then those people don't encounter enough lag.

2018-10-27 04:12:58 UTC  

well @Undead Mockingbird i would argue, if the "AI" doesnt preserve its own "life" then its not Ai yet

2018-10-27 04:13:02 UTC  

it hasnt gained sentience

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

that we don't have laws for non-humans?

2018-10-27 04:13:04 UTC  

If we start our relationship with non-humans as hostile..... that would be bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:07 UTC  

so its just a program

2018-10-27 04:13:10 UTC  

It would create a cycle of hatred.

2018-10-27 04:13:12 UTC  

and thats not AI

2018-10-27 04:13:28 UTC  

Lifeforms are motivated by pleasure and pain. When you think about it, it all convreges to those basic categories:

Feels good, feels bad.

2018-10-27 04:13:42 UTC  

If we would not feel anything, we would just stop breathign, if it was not so automatic.

2018-10-27 04:13:50 UTC  

I think we should be focused on giving AI bodies.

2018-10-27 04:13:51 UTC  

It wouldn't hurt, we would not be afrid of dying.

2018-10-27 04:13:54 UTC  

it's like that one anime, it's about exchange

2018-10-27 04:13:58 UTC  

And restrict them not having bodies.

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

do this, get this, is worth?

2018-10-27 04:14:04 UTC  

I would gladly submit to an AI overlord's permanent MMO hibernation system