Message from @Abel
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people will constantly try and sneak in and take benefit of it, even if their country was okay.
exactly.
the best you can do is filter it.
While the fact that we have "Little Mexico"s sounds good to Mexican Illegals, they'd come regardless because America has resources
Yeah that's what we've been saying
There's no curing immigration
Unless you make other countries where immigrants come from 1st world and prosperous
Maybe I am to much of an optimist but I think there is solutions
Unless you find immigration as an issue
Cause making America worse than them and killing them are bad options.
i don't think making other counteries prosperous is ever going to work with the current system
Explain to me what other options to cure immigration there are
for one country to prosper, other counteries have to lose out.
There are 2 parts to this cost benefit calculation. What country is better for me to live in? America, or home country?
You balance those scales
You can tip it in favor of staying in their country by either, Making America worse than theirs
The road to ruin is paved with good intentions. We will be taken advantage of to the extent that we tolerate it. The strategy is to use our kindness and good will against us.
There is a 3rd part, how much of a benefit do I acquire
or Making theirs better than America, or at least good enough to not be worth the hasstle
No dude, that's not a 3rd part
The best way to make countries around you prosperous is to make the people rebuild their country rather than running to yours
That's within the balancing act of the 2 parts
I guess that's true
The only 3rd solution to stop immigration is to wipe this calculation off the face of the earth by including them here, so they don;t need to be citizens, or killing them so there aren't people to even want to come here
So I guess there are only 4 options
America worse, Native Country better, Open Borders, Kill everyone
See why you can't cure immigration?
All those options suck, or are hard to do
The only one that is morally good is fix their countries
And that takes a long time
Which is why we deflect illegals and deal with symptoms as we slowly try to pressure them to get better
My question would be is immigration an issue to you, or just illegal immigration?
Autocorrect....
Well kind of both.
Regular immigration can be fine if it's like, someone from Germany to the US
1st world to 1st world
i'm in the EU, so both for me.
legal low skilled migration is bad as well
Then it is impossible to solve
I know
pretty much, we should just pick and chose people who will be a benefit to our country.