Message from @Ottobon
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But i mainly red pill on economics. Some politics and psychology comes in to.
discipline isn't there to make you happy, its to teach you to stay in control
its up to you to find out what makes you happy
i dont even mean happy
i mean any form of meaning in life
It hurts me to hear Tim make uneducated econ arguments
@Dr.Wol brb ill refute that in a sec
and otto, Discipline is less of a trait to make you happy and more of a trait to avoid unhappiness. you can avoid unhappiness through discipline but you still need someone else in your life to tip yourself toward happiness
same thing really, its up to you to find your meaning of life, others can only offer you advice/ideas
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lol
Damnit Exiled
I was considering reposting that too
GREAT MINDS
`The stream in question was hours of Holocaust denial and the donations were routed to St. Jude`
It was just ONE hour of a holocoaster argument between AiU and Harmful
Then the holocoaster jokes lasted all night
someone in situation i was trying to give example of (neurotic, lacking guidance in early life ) doesnt gives a shit about control once they've got it if they don't know what it stands for, you just get more depressed while appearing to be more under control to the outward world. sorry if this is graining im just trying to express from different personality type why its important to touch on the concepts as different things and not assume having simply discipline in check will lead to everything working out
also discipline isn't supposed to prevent unhappiness,
Its literally a method to maintain control of your own impulses so that you won't let things get out of hand
discipline is wanting cake really badly, but end up not eating it cuz you don't wanna get fat 😄
reeee im not anti discipline reeee, im just saying if this is a recipe its like salt, you can't just cook anything with lots of salt and pretend it will come out good all the other bits matter
haha so
and the outcome of the other action, I.E. being fat, would end up making such a person unhappy. while discipline runs counter to short term happiness, it helps prevent long term unhappiness
everyone saw the Alec Baldwin thing right
Baldwin then followed the man to the Muni-meter and punched him, police said. The driver was taken to Lenox Hill hospital.
this is the funniest part
Both cars involved in the dispute got parking tickets for not paying the meter.
however their must also be a drive, or a motive, to find happiness in the action you took
eating 1 bit of cake wont ruin you though
@Dr.Wol i like it when people ask these question because it shows you they want to learn more or talk about it to make more sense of things
@Dr.Wol so thinking long term prevents you from acting on mindless whims
you guys are fun 💟
i am very jetlagged ngl
you also cant reason anything with the philosophical ideas im preaching
And you are right Otto, discipline isn't the all-end-all
But it creates a good ground for having stability, and you can build on a stable foundation
wol thats where moderation comes into play, drinking one beer wont make me an alcoholic but downing half a bottle of whisky each weekend because of lack of self-control and discipline very much could
also, ttv, you surely followed the culture of the west for a while
also what do you mean discipline
discipline is simply the understanding of self-control and the ability to avoid long term unhappinesses
can you honestly say, people can't reason anything? after everything we've seen the last 2 years? 😉
@Yugure you can do that with ideas