in·di·vid·u·al·ism
/ˌindəˈvij(o͞o)əˌlizəm/
noun
1.
the habit or principle of being independent and self-reliant.
2.
a social theory favoring freedom of action for individuals over collective or state control.

"Fuck Optics, I'm Going In" - WSJ

The problem with the 2 party System is that sometimes the one side wants to Keep themselves in power . but societally its hard if the Fabric they weave wont hold

While collectivism can get dangerous a lot faster than individualism, both lead to bad extremes

@Yugure one party will eventually diminish as ideas start to become more extreme contradictions will be weeded out

@Yugure how so?

Individualism to an extreme will cause fractures

cuz everyone thinks THEY have the real truth and ideas

yeah

no followers just leaders

and you'll just be bowling-pins for a collective bowling-ball

save yourself situation

@Yugure shall we take this to debate?

Those two basically hit it on the head

so what exactly?

individual extreme would cause People to not have a Reason to help others ? some would obviosly but would most people then in a society thats purely based on individualism be considered Self centrism ? @Dr.Wol

If you ask me, the promotion of individualism should be ignored when coming from collectivists

@Walsp no helping others promotes a society they wanna see

Self-Centeredism @Walsp 😄

Lol

For example, I tend to see a lot of people promoting individualism among demographics who are being opposed by collectivists, so as to weaken said demographics' ability to govern themselves and others

there we go

plus you get the selfish satisfaction when you help someone

only if its profitable

no one wants to help a prick

lul

😄

all you see is profit

feeling happy is profit too

doesn't have to be money

true

For example, Grassy McGreen hates the Red people

@haahwaaw is it rational hatred

And wishes to have the nation be governed at their expense

in my Education System for example Lowering the passing Rates instead of setting a standard Keeping people Ignorant of there situation and what they could achieve. making them Subservient of collectives to sustain themselves is unhealthy long term as you create constant generations dependant on the Collective to Take care of them .

every choice people make is about what nets them the most profit, be it in money, happiness, satisfaction

Thus he promotes individualism amongst the Red people, while collectivism among the Greens, so that the Greens can more easily oppose the Reds, and the Reds as a group are less able to politically secure themselves from Grassy McGreen's efforts

hmmm

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When everyone is their own person and only worried about their own person, those who are not the "fittest" of our society are forgotten and left behind for the inability to keep up as well as the fact we will only see ourselves as "Jim" "Bob" or "George", but the bits of collectivism is what allows us to see ourselves not just with our views as us as individuals, but also as a collective, as "Americans" for example