If someone accepted you, over someone with better test scores, because of your depression struggles, did you receive special consideration?

Lowering the bar is giving the assumption that a group of people all face the same problem and need Pity for ir

Someone born poor should not have the same opportunity's as someone born rich? Doesnt sound very merit based.

If anything I wouldent be accepted because of my GPA

Since the individual did not achieve their keep in life themselves

My GPA was a 2.3, yet my ACT was a 28

The personal statement helped them understand maybe my GPA was skewed because of my bout with depression

No, @Yugure that is a fatally flawed assumption. You can lower the bar on any basis, even an individual one.

Lowering the bar is just that, lowering the bar

it says NOTHNG about the reasons why you're lowering it

simply that you're lowering it

so anything extra is baggage in your mind

@Yugure grades are nothing

sadly grades nowadays do not separate those who learn and those who memorize

Grades are the academic benchmark of success Kali

And your right, but they are used nontheless

there is no meriotacratic metric to determine a lot of academic achievement not every student in america goes to the same high school one schools 2.5 is a lot more difficult then another schools

It's true, but grades would say a lot more if I had more trust in the American educations system.

We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem

That is why things like SAT and GRE exist

@RomanReigns

While I was in the 90th percentile for grades, my ACT for my school was the 10th percentile

18:37] Yugure: We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem

nope

Your 2.3 GPA was 90th percentile? For your school?

Not surprising with high school these days.

sat is flawed as well since at best it just determines one type of metric for intelligence at worst it rewards socioeconomic status because the top 10% school track essentially prepares students their whole lives for standardized testing

Yep, my school was essentially where as long as you turned in homework you ended in the 3.0s at least

On top of the fact we also had some really easy blowoff electives to boost gpa

a good sat score just means you were well prepared,studied hard and are good at taking a specific style of standardized test

Okay. All of this is kind of a sideways discussion, though. The efficiency of measuring merit is not a mark against using merit as a metric.

exactly, so nothing is better than action, so do something with what you learned, harder with abstract sciences

yeah, that's exactly what it means. That's why its an equalizer in a system where you can't rely solely on gpa

So Ben and Jerry released a new flavor and spent one hour talking about everything but what the flavor is

everyone has equal oppertunity to study for the sat

The flavor is orange man bad

@Zuihou completely irrelevant and besides your life goals, get it tiger!

@taekahn but if you suck the proff you get it easier in life? no thanks

that said a rich person who doesn't get into a top school and blames aa or a poor person who can't get in through sat scores can still navigate their way to get top marks at a 2 year school and still graduate from a top uni since most school's have a merit based transfer system anyone can work their way to achieving

where the fuck did i say anything like that

This also points out another problem with a purely meritocratic system, there is simply no such thing as a good metric for it. There needs to be other metrics to round out it's flaws

any private uni is a cash whore