We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem

That is why things like SAT and GRE exist

@RomanReigns

While I was in the 90th percentile for grades, my ACT for my school was the 10th percentile

18:37] Yugure: We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem

nope

Your 2.3 GPA was 90th percentile? For your school?

Not surprising with high school these days.

sat is flawed as well since at best it just determines one type of metric for intelligence at worst it rewards socioeconomic status because the top 10% school track essentially prepares students their whole lives for standardized testing

Yep, my school was essentially where as long as you turned in homework you ended in the 3.0s at least

On top of the fact we also had some really easy blowoff electives to boost gpa

a good sat score just means you were well prepared,studied hard and are good at taking a specific style of standardized test

Okay. All of this is kind of a sideways discussion, though. The efficiency of measuring merit is not a mark against using merit as a metric.

exactly, so nothing is better than action, so do something with what you learned, harder with abstract sciences

yeah, that's exactly what it means. That's why its an equalizer in a system where you can't rely solely on gpa

So Ben and Jerry released a new flavor and spent one hour talking about everything but what the flavor is

everyone has equal oppertunity to study for the sat

The flavor is orange man bad

@Zuihou completely irrelevant and besides your life goals, get it tiger!

@taekahn but if you suck the proff you get it easier in life? no thanks

that said a rich person who doesn't get into a top school and blames aa or a poor person who can't get in through sat scores can still navigate their way to get top marks at a 2 year school and still graduate from a top uni since most school's have a merit based transfer system anyone can work their way to achieving

where the fuck did i say anything like that

This also points out another problem with a purely meritocratic system, there is simply no such thing as a good metric for it. There needs to be other metrics to round out it's flaws

any private uni is a cash whore

Even the one organization that is against climate change stated report sighting how cows are the leading cause of global warming and is promoting an ice cream company that uses cows

any imbecile with cash can pass

@Zuihou ok now that is funny

well, you're free to come up with a better system than SAT and GRE for determining academic merit

oh, you haven't. ok

@taekahn how about no system, grade them on "passed" or "not", test for IQ, give more support to those who have cognitive handicaps

IQ is a flawed test as well.

bullshit

accept iq or reject all social sciences

IQ is also a horrible metric, you would need to test them for EQ in tandum with it

IQ is number one most researched parameter in social sciences and most of social sciences base themselves off of cognitive research

EQ is non existent

> racist border fences

also, IQ just as g are parameters which show broad range of cognitive capabilities so a smart person is smart in many things and dumb is dumb in many things

@Zuihou racism? you must be new on this planet

>tfw Emotional cognitive intelligence is non-existent

You can improve your IQ test by studying, therefore it is going to be subject to the exact same criticisms you level at SAT and GRE scores.

We need to document how a fence is racist