Message from @Yugure
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yu what?
Someone who faces struggles wants the opportunity to earn their keep, not be handed it
So, under Tim's system, your depression problems would entitle you to aid or special consideration that someone without those struggles would not receive?
Again, no
that which is given has no value... for those who keep forgetting
So, you don't get anything?
Book you seem to be missing a step or two here which could be my fault for not explaining correctly
You're judged on the same plane as someone without the problems you face?
Let's take college admissions again. Now when people are admitted to college, their GPA and ACT/SAT scores hold the most weight in an application process AKA their achievements in high school
Think of it like this, A student from a poor public school would not have the same opportunity's as a someone from a rich private school. This means that your merit in your school and not your merit compared to rich child should be used.
However many colleges (including my own) allow for a personal statement to add a human factor to the application, to explain a struggle in your life that could have caused your achievements
That sounds to me like lowering the bar for people
special people
While the personal statement does not hold as much weight as the ACT and GPA, it helps in a decision making process
So then your okay with not applying equal opportunity to a situation?
If someone accepted you, over someone with better test scores, because of your depression struggles, did you receive special consideration?
Lowering the bar is giving the assumption that a group of people all face the same problem and need Pity for ir
Someone born poor should not have the same opportunity's as someone born rich? Doesnt sound very merit based.
If anything I wouldent be accepted because of my GPA
Since the individual did not achieve their keep in life themselves
The personal statement helped them understand maybe my GPA was skewed because of my bout with depression
No, @Yugure that is a fatally flawed assumption. You can lower the bar on any basis, even an individual one.
Lowering the bar is just that, lowering the bar
it says NOTHNG about the reasons why you're lowering it
simply that you're lowering it
so anything extra is baggage in your mind
sadly grades nowadays do not separate those who learn and those who memorize
Grades are the academic benchmark of success Kali
And your right, but they are used nontheless
there is no meriotacratic metric to determine a lot of academic achievement not every student in america goes to the same high school one schools 2.5 is a lot more difficult then another schools
It's true, but grades would say a lot more if I had more trust in the American educations system.
We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem
That is why things like SAT and GRE exist
While I was in the 90th percentile for grades, my ACT for my school was the 10th percentile
18:37] Yugure: We may hate the rings, but to reach our goals we need to jump through tjem
nope
Your 2.3 GPA was 90th percentile? For your school?
Not surprising with high school these days.
sat is flawed as well since at best it just determines one type of metric for intelligence at worst it rewards socioeconomic status because the top 10% school track essentially prepares students their whole lives for standardized testing