women are married to the state so why need for men and motivation to work out relationships?

men in return go mgtow

kek

That on too of the fact some women will face post partum (sorry in spelling) depression as well..the feeling of ready may never come

I had a lack luster relationship with my dad. My older siblings have chosen lives that reflect not taking the time to not repete the mistakes of our parents.

the bright future

Some positive and some negative.

I mean, it makes sense. Fascist countries call their state the fatherland.

order is fatherly domain

But it was their choice. As it is mine.

mother nature being chaotic

thus fatherland

Obviously traditionalism of any sort is identification with your ancestors to the point that you revere them.

and in russia its motherland

well its a problem on two sides,

Women don't need to depend on a man anymore due to the state,
So they don't have to sacrifice their desires cuz they can just survive and find another


And men don't need to sacrifice as much for "pussy" cuz they can just find another easy woman who wants a man

If you don't know how to sacrifice, then at the slightest trouble its "Pff i'll just find another with less problems"

And they bolt

@Kali Yuga In Gnostic cosmology that is how the Father and Mother archetypes are described. With the Father being the Holy Father and the Mother is the Holy Spirit/Sophia.

I've heard that it's more important that there are two parents of any gender than just having both a mom and a dad, but it's hard to have trust in authority when it comes to this sort of topic.

@Dr.Wol It's very hard to become a father without example. You can't teach it. It has to be learned. Take it from me.

And the Son/Child being Logos, the Word brought to life through the synthesis of the fatherly soul and the motherly spirit.

Well i can't argue there Skrapp 😄 my father was always there for me

@Dvir yes

and boy does that man know shit about life 😮

@skrappjaw learned on your own or by your father example

I recall a snipit of a study which supported that idea schedrevka

Wol hits what I've found close..people are no longer willing to sacrifice for a relationship nor put in any effort on making one work long term

If a kid doesn't get a father figure in the home, they *will* get one somewhere

Yeah, in the case of a lot of black communities it is gangs.

Usually from a not good place

well Yugure, why would they? If its easy to just hop to someone with less problems, but the same rewards, people care little for the idea of sacrificing

@Kali Yuga Both. More on my own. I took his absence and had to fill the gaps and be resourceful. It is hard to be a father. But my wife has been an amazing help.

Then clearly, the solution is to vilify men who leave women and women who leave men.

nah

make sex not such an easy thing anymore 😄

"easy", he says ....sigh

Sex should be outlawed tbh

Men will work hard for sex if they can't just get it

they'll sacrifice

Dont know who did it or when, but it did show that having one parent of each gender saw changes in the kids. Kids in dual sex or single parent households were 5-10% more likely to: become criminals, suffer addiction of some kind, end up single and 2-5% less likely to graduate college

they'll work

Easy..is maybe the wrong word wol