Message from @R9b1t

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2018-11-08 05:18:50 UTC  

Senomyx website states that “The company’s key flavor programs focus on the discovery and development of savory, sweet and salt flavor ingredients that are intended to allow for the reduction of MSG, sugar and salt in food and beverage products … Using isolated human taste receptors, we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor.”

2018-11-08 05:19:06 UTC  

Very few instances involve this and you are basing this off a potential which is rather inconsistent @ExceptionalFeather

2018-11-08 05:19:24 UTC  

The fact is he is stagnate

2018-11-08 05:19:27 UTC  

It is hypothetical for the sake of finding a moral

2018-11-08 05:19:46 UTC  

Well does it feel wrong when you are about to shoot him

2018-11-08 05:19:50 UTC  

but if they are using human cells one way, there is no reason to think they aren't exploring every other way they can exploit the fetal cells they can get

2018-11-08 05:20:14 UTC  

Is it about feelings? It would feel wrong to me.

2018-11-08 05:20:17 UTC  

and it's what isn't said that scares me... what else is there?

2018-11-08 05:20:36 UTC  

yeah i see what you mean

2018-11-08 05:20:37 UTC  

So than it is wrong because it contradicts your emotions @ExceptionalFeather

2018-11-08 05:20:56 UTC  

Well im not in favor of aborting babies that are already developed and have a heart and everything i.e. mid-late stage pregnancy.
I would only support that if the womens life is at risk and you risk having 2 dead people instead of 1.
And frankly, i think a lot women would rather have the child live than themselves.

2018-11-08 05:21:19 UTC  

The evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence

2018-11-08 05:21:26 UTC  

But law shouldn't and can't be based off values but reason its self which is based off non contradictory logic

2018-11-08 05:22:00 UTC  

i would say having a developed fetus with a functioning heart is a reasonable line to draw

2018-11-08 05:22:03 UTC  

CBS News noted such in a mid-2011 report on the Senomyx controversy (which for some reason primarily focused on PepsiCo):

[Senomyx] appears to be engineering HEK cells to function like the taste-receptor cells we have in our mouth. This way, Senomyx can test millions of substances to see if they work as different types of taste enhancers without subjecting human volunteers to endless taste tests.

2018-11-08 05:22:08 UTC  

Is it reasonable that someone should not be shot in the head if their heart is stopped and they can be revived though.

2018-11-08 05:22:31 UTC  

@ExceptionalFeather thats based on values not reason the person is stagnate yes?

2018-11-08 05:22:42 UTC  

well shooting or otherwise maiming a dead body is considered immoral anyway

2018-11-08 05:22:47 UTC  

Also its the potential to be revived

2018-11-08 05:22:51 UTC  

Vc?

2018-11-08 05:22:55 UTC  

Vc?

2018-11-08 05:23:01 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-08 05:23:07 UTC  

No?

2018-11-08 05:23:36 UTC  

@R9b1t remember hek means human embyronic kidney, 293 is the batch they used for that particular product.. of which we have no way to know what they have as their total product list

2018-11-08 05:24:19 UTC  

the snopes fact check seems to emphasize the process is for testing on kidney cells

2018-11-08 05:24:39 UTC  
2018-11-08 05:24:42 UTC  

see i dont like that anyway because it's use of fetuses, but it isn't directly adding HEK293 into our food

2018-11-08 05:25:16 UTC  

now why they wouldn't just taste it themselves is beyond me

2018-11-08 05:25:17 UTC  

I'm in bed my phone mic is no good on Discord for some reason

2018-11-08 05:25:33 UTC  

Just need you to hear atleast

2018-11-08 05:25:51 UTC  

It's annoying to type about more complicated subjects

2018-11-08 05:26:02 UTC  

and tbh when i pop open a bag of lays potato chipes im not tasting it and thinking how great baby kidney tastes

2018-11-08 05:26:17 UTC  

Your mic is muted

2018-11-08 05:26:18 UTC  

@R9b1t they have other products though, such as what they call substance 951 (sugar enhancer0 and another that is supposed to make foods more savory

2018-11-08 05:26:51 UTC  

I would call that reasonable, your not gonna shoot someone on an operation table because their heart stopped, obviously you gonna try to revive that person who already is alive and had a whole live and everything.
A young fetus isnt alive, hasnt been alive yet, feels nothing and has less going on then a fly.
It doesnt feel pain either becuase there is nothing firing yet to make them capable of doing that.
That all happens at a later stage.
Hence, i think the only harm an abortion at an early stage causes is the fact that the women will have to live with that for the rest of her life and the father if he is known at all for that matter.

2018-11-08 05:27:38 UTC  

I think the more heavier moral questions are beyond that early stage

2018-11-08 05:27:42 UTC  

which is being pushed btw

2018-11-08 05:27:50 UTC  

Point is that it would seem reasonable that heart stopped alone is not good enough reason for the rest of someone body to be destroyed if there is potential of revival

2018-11-08 05:27:53 UTC  

im not under any illusion

2018-11-08 05:28:04 UTC  

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