How'd we make them?

our idea of whats true is true until it isnt

Im not arguing about reason booled

@Ronald McFunkytown✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ until its contradicts

Im arguing that we can only approximate objective reality

To some extent yes I guess

We cant know reality to a certain degree without time

objective reality itself doesnt change, our ability to approximate it does however.

and i think thats probably the best we can do as far as i can think

But the premise doesn't change for reason or objective reality so that's all that matters really I concede

We can still know reality through reason I might add

in a more general sense yea, otherwise we wouldnt be able to function

you assume the ground underneath you will hold your next step etc

but in a more abstract sense no

tritrium, it sounds like you agree with objective reality and are only stating that humans are falliable and can't accurately depict reality as it objectively is.

Yeah

pretty much

@Malt_Hitman id say with enough time this will be overturned

you can only do your best to approximate it

maybe, but i dont think its possible because there always is a lagg between objective reality and the human perceiving it.
But i could always be proven wrong

Okay. I was wondering if anyone was actually claiming there was no objective reality.

Here's a question then. Does time actually exist or is it just a function of travel through space?

Oh man... I think that'

**Yeah ive got time**

@tritrium man has created tools that aid this and has done so much where logic and selfishness are shouted down and shamed

Aristotle is what gave us reason

I dont contest any of that booled

He invented rules of reason

Time dosn't exist, time is a man made construct to denote the passage of our liner existance

i do not contest reason at all

Sure

Well good question, but time is how to say it in english

see this is where im reaching my english vocabulary limits

@FrostyCrits time is concept doesn't mean it doesn't exists it generalizes and measures the change of objects

Time is arbitrary, some person somewhere came up with the idea

> Time

What if I were to... stop it?

Units used to measure time are arbitrary, but time itself exists

It exists if it doesn't contradict itself and can be observed which it can

time is not arbitrary, its a mathematical measurement of the earth revolving around the sun essentially

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but its not solid, it can be bend