Message from @tritrium

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2018-11-08 05:55:27 UTC  

Why I'm wrong

2018-11-08 05:56:24 UTC  

So you admit you are wrong?

2018-11-08 05:56:34 UTC  

Clever

2018-11-08 05:56:43 UTC  

No that's a strawman

2018-11-08 05:57:03 UTC  

No a scarecrow is a strawman

2018-11-08 05:57:30 UTC  

Im not gonna bother refuting utopian positions and you dont have objective reality either, its the only thing the post modernists got right.
You have an approximation to objective reality, but never "objective reality" itself.

2018-11-08 05:59:07 UTC  

@Existence is identity Thats more advanced knowledge but yes we do

2018-11-08 05:59:37 UTC  

Getting into how precise everything is without defining the basics

i worship coochie

coochie brings forth life

2018-11-08 06:00:15 UTC  

Senses are you used to give information but we think and use reason to make sense of it

2018-11-08 06:00:16 UTC  

lol

2018-11-08 06:01:19 UTC  

No, you don’t need thought or reason for a reflex.

2018-11-08 06:01:21 UTC  

which is not objective reality, that is in best case scenario: people trying to be as objective as they can manage.

2018-11-08 06:01:30 UTC  

so I got a message from Ryan Reynolds on Twitter

2018-11-08 06:01:45 UTC  

?

2018-11-08 06:01:59 UTC  

If the senses aren't adequate to your desired position to make them which most scenarios they don't need to be we can use tools or develop but this still proves things through reason

objective reality cant be based on senses

2018-11-08 06:01:59 UTC  

Tell him to fuck off @Rainspector23

2018-11-08 06:02:20 UTC  

he posted “go vote your ass off today” and I was the first reply saying “already did daddy Deadpool” and it got so many likes

2018-11-08 06:02:37 UTC  

Our senses is the only way we can approximate objective reality ronald

2018-11-08 06:02:41 UTC  

it is always based on that

2018-11-08 06:02:53 UTC  

@tritrium it is objective if it doesn't contradict

2018-11-08 06:03:05 UTC  

again

2018-11-08 06:03:09 UTC  

only approximation

2018-11-08 06:03:40 UTC  

Why don’t you two move this to debate

2018-11-08 06:03:43 UTC  

Objective reality would have to be based on what it is. Not what you preceive it to be at any point in time.

2018-11-08 06:04:05 UTC  

^

2018-11-08 06:04:11 UTC  

@Malt_Hitman yes the senses perceive if not feelings

if we are both in the same room and i think its too hot and you think its cold what is reality

2018-11-08 06:04:37 UTC  

Before you can have reality, you have to exist. Can you proove you exist, can any of us?

2018-11-08 06:04:37 UTC  

Reality would be the temperature in the room.

2018-11-08 06:04:43 UTC  

@Ronald McFunkytown✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ that of course it more complicated because that's motivated by feelings

2018-11-08 06:05:08 UTC  

Reality would the room tempature yes

2018-11-08 06:05:27 UTC  

Those are both your perceptions on the temperature in the room. The room's temperature is objective.

2018-11-08 06:05:55 UTC  

@Antireal perceptions motivated by feelings to form a concept

2018-11-08 06:06:55 UTC  

And this disproves reason how?

2018-11-08 06:07:25 UTC  

Recent discoveries done with the universe have destroyed objective realities once believed.
In fact a lot of them completely turned everything on its head.
But at the time that was logically consistent and objectively measured.
Yet it was wrong.

2018-11-08 06:07:45 UTC  

and thats the forefront of science and thinkers

2018-11-08 06:08:14 UTC  

What recent discoveries are you referring to?

2018-11-08 06:08:18 UTC  

@tritrium sure but we advanced so did our technology and understanding