old, outdated, unscientific, unhistoric.

tribalism

I see we have a lot of intellectuals here

To refute the validity of religion is to refute every culture inextricably connected to its religious heritage

your point?

is that a bad thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w

Religion is a fundamental component to a society and a nation. To remove a moral and metaphysical central ideology will inevitably lead to the dissolution of the nation.

Well i am, i don't consider modern western world a hand-down of religion

cultures a a result of society

uh...

Dvir

no.

^

Secular morality.

it exists, I suggest you read up on it.

and society drained and discarded men for millenia. dont mind if i return the favour.

Secular morality that was envisioned by religious people.

biology did that Punks 😉

I hate when people act like religion is the only way.

ALLAH AKBAR

I hate when Daily Wire talks about this shit

I hate when people act like religion is never the way

💣

It drives me crazy.

I beleive its the rejection of religiously justified oppression taht spawned Secular morality

uh.. Dvir.... Secular morality does not require religion to exist. Religion was not the first to come up with the morals it has in place.

not religion itself

@Dvir Notice how my thought was original, and you had to resort to mockery.

That's the religious debating tactic.

"WELL Y'KNOW. ATHEISTS ARE THEIR OWN RELIGION"

Without religion secular morality cannot be justified

Oh good one.

I know not to stab someone not because of religion, but because of the innate psychological morality that comes with it

sure it can

Here we go.

Dvir is essentially saying

"I think about killing and raping all the time"

"The only reason I don't, is because hell!"

With morality, it's usuually 'I wouldn't want this to happen to me, so I won't do it to other people'

Wow Dvir, tell us more.