ban them outright

So you want to raise the cost of robot production to be like humans, therefore removing the advantage of them being able to produce things for cheaper meaning you can buy them for cheaper.

I go out of my way to avoid automatic sales stations in meat space

This is why redistribution doesn't work.

Or we tax them

I worked retail and know what our is like

If you give everyone basic income, that becomes the new poor who can't afford to live.

and besides, you are kina missing the point. Robots aren't competing with humans, here in the US, they are competing with slave labor over seas.

My point is I see it as directly comparable to the current trade debate

we don't

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You've not sufficiently argued that case

Robots are competing with humans

And will increasingly compete with humans

they don't compete, humans can't keep up they can't compete

Exactly

That's my point

Humans don't compete with robots, we make robots to do things we don't want to do.

So tax them for thier excess production

So, if you are against slavery, you have to be pro-robot

Robots will lower the costs

since you no logner need the labor payment

Which is why we should be afraid of thinking machines that can self improve

so instead of having to tax them to keep up with prices

just have the prices lowered

But then wealth will flow unrestrained to those who own the robots.

Why?

yeah, in just as small a portion

And we end up with even more inequality that the populace is already restive over

if i can buy a car for 100 dollars due to incredibly low costs,

the rich guy gets 100 dollars

If no one had wealth to give them anymore, how does it flow to them?

instead of like 80.000

It needs to flow from them back down.

Or they stop getting any, and they stop buying from other people

yeah, though just the normal progressive tax

Again that is post scarcity

you don't have to tax them more cuz people don't need that much to stay around

Again, are Americans willing to let a fraction of 1% of the population have greater than 80% of all wealth?

Post scarcity is once the robots can replace themselves, removing all need for labor

Once humans are no longer needed for labor you have post scarcity

They can