Message from @Cody
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cuz the companies are part of the state
Beeman, china is not communist even if their party is communist
>freely
so china will allow competition for state run/owned businesses?
Communism requires a classless, stateless society
I didnt say it was communist
I said it was socialist
Same thing btw
I've been very specific in my phrasing
it's not lol
But like hey
holy fuck
communism is not socialism
never said it was good
2 times
it's not about quality
**IT'S NOT ABOUT QUALITY**
Nothing is 100% beeman
it's about the characteristics of the system
It's all about percent
China owns the means of production, ergo it's a socialist system
Nazi Germany also allowed individuals to run and profit from running companies, but at the end of the day the state determined what happened to that company
Just the largest means
Codes is also wrong. China is far from capitalist
you are allowed to operate a business, but you don't own it
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@Abel I disagree with the "also" though, as I never said China was communist, just that it wasnt capitalist
You guys seem to thing that your either capitalist or your not
the only capitalism that china use is state run capitalism
"state run capitalism" isn't capitalism
Its privately owned by people that are part of the party
Economic systems merge
so yes
And twist
its not true capitalism
Many of the biggest companies are still state owned.
it's like saying you have a democracy when you have only one viable candidate
China Telecom (中国电信集团公司), for example, is state owned.
its private businesses free market controlled by Xinpings inner group
it's not private if it's owned by the government
What they do, though, is issue shares that can be publicly traded.