the government owns businesses, land, and the means of production overall

Let's just say your right beeman

What do you call a market, run by the government?

You're both wrong, codes and beeman

But, it is a market insofar as you have freedom to market products/service and freely make purchases as a consumer.

Has there been any confirmation from the FBI stating that they do indeed label the proud boys an extremist organization with ties to white nationalism? (I mean beyond the general "we give state governments things to watch out for all the time" statement)

China knows socialism can not work for state profits,

So they technically lease their companies to managers/CEO's etc to make profit for the state and those people can have a share of the earnings to live a comfy life

I guess you can say that there are "pockets" of free markets.

cuz the companies are part of the state

Beeman, china is not communist even if their party is communist

>freely
so china will allow competition for state run/owned businesses?

Communism requires a classless, stateless society

I didnt say it was communist

I said it was socialist

Same thing btw

I've been very specific in my phrasing

it's not lol

But like hey

holy fuck

communism is not socialism

never said it was good

2 times

it's not about quality

**IT'S NOT ABOUT QUALITY**

Nothing is 100% beeman

it's about the characteristics of the system

It's all about percent

China owns the means of production, ergo it's a socialist system

Not all means of production

Nazi Germany also allowed individuals to run and profit from running companies, but at the end of the day the state determined what happened to that company

Just the largest means

Codes is also wrong. China is far from capitalist

you are allowed to operate a business, but you don't own it

^

@Abel I disagree with the "also" though, as I never said China was communist, just that it wasnt capitalist

You guys seem to thing that your either capitalist or your not

the only capitalism that china use is state run capitalism

"state run capitalism" isn't capitalism

Its privately owned by people that are part of the party

Economic systems merge

so yes