Message from @Cody

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2018-11-23 14:42:21 UTC  

its not true capitalism

2018-11-23 14:42:25 UTC  

Many of the biggest companies are still state owned.

2018-11-23 14:42:26 UTC  

it's like saying you have a democracy when you have only one viable candidate

2018-11-23 14:42:35 UTC  

China Telecom (中国电信集团公司), for example, is state owned.

2018-11-23 14:42:44 UTC  

its private businesses free market controlled by Xinpings inner group

2018-11-23 14:42:54 UTC  

it's not private if it's owned by the government

2018-11-23 14:42:55 UTC  

What they do, though, is issue shares that can be publicly traded.

2018-11-23 14:42:57 UTC  

by definition

2018-11-23 14:43:10 UTC  

no its "privately owned by members of the chinese communist party"

2018-11-23 14:43:12 UTC  

Those usually appear in stock exchanges in Hong Kong (H shares), Shanghai and Shenzhen.

2018-11-23 14:43:13 UTC  

thats what they call it

2018-11-23 14:43:26 UTC  

@Walsp It's not capitalist if the public isn't allowed to own and sell it

2018-11-23 14:43:27 UTC  

the reality as we all are aware is not private

2018-11-23 14:43:29 UTC  

which is a distinction without a difference

2018-11-23 14:43:31 UTC  

I am not really sure what to call this.

2018-11-23 14:43:45 UTC  

It's socialism with a pink ribbon on top

2018-11-23 14:43:55 UTC  

its capitalist if its a "Free market " but we know they monitor it

2018-11-23 14:44:02 UTC  

I suppose it's all hybrid nowadays.

2018-11-23 14:44:08 UTC  

yes

2018-11-23 14:44:08 UTC  

Allowing people to own minor shares in a company doesnt mean it's a hybrid

2018-11-23 14:44:13 UTC  

Then I guess America is not capitalist

2018-11-23 14:44:20 UTC  

Heavily monitored

2018-11-23 14:44:20 UTC  

they use a Hybrid system of it but not completely

2018-11-23 14:44:22 UTC  

so how much of Monsanto does the state own?

2018-11-23 14:44:34 UTC  

Walsp actually gets it

2018-11-23 14:44:37 UTC  

there was a article on it but i fear it is propaganda

2018-11-23 14:44:43 UTC  

Be warned

2018-11-23 14:44:44 UTC  

Maybe not by itself, but there are many other aspects that I think would muddle the distinctions.

2018-11-23 14:44:52 UTC  

what china says its system is can be lied about

2018-11-23 14:44:55 UTC  

I think those are non-voting shares.

2018-11-23 14:45:08 UTC  

And what our news feeds have on this is also possibly skewed

2018-11-23 14:45:17 UTC  

We may disagree but he actually gets it

2018-11-23 14:45:29 UTC  

Idk dude

2018-11-23 14:45:34 UTC  

Ask gingabomber

2018-11-23 14:45:40 UTC  

@Cody
how much of Monsanto is owned by the US Govt?

2018-11-23 14:45:43 UTC  

I talked about this exact thing

2018-11-23 14:45:56 UTC  

I dont even care who Monsanto is

2018-11-23 14:46:07 UTC  

I ain't buying shit products

2018-11-23 14:46:15 UTC  

cap·i·tal·ism
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2018-11-23 14:46:16 UTC  

But just because the government has companies it controls does not in itself preclude a capitalist system, I think. Sure, there is an unfair advantage, but I think it's hard to find a system that has absolutely pure markets.

2018-11-23 14:46:17 UTC  

Cause I define s capitalist economy