Message from @tritrium

Discord ID: 516230321679761409


2018-11-25 12:30:29 UTC  

There is -not- a victim until a crime has actually been proven.

2018-11-25 12:30:47 UTC  

but undead, wants to make it so that abusers as a class do no exist

2018-11-25 12:30:57 UTC  

For example:
Man & women have sex, much later a rapeclaim is being made.
Word of a women should not be worth more then a man, but it is seen like that and constantly being pushed to be like that right now.
Actual evidence should be the deciding factor of this.

2018-11-25 12:31:16 UTC  

because he believes that men dont actually abuse women sometimes

2018-11-25 12:31:58 UTC  

Trit I agree with you there

2018-11-25 12:32:01 UTC  

I dont think thats a fair statement from what ive seen

2018-11-25 12:32:03 UTC  

undead wouldnt

2018-11-25 12:32:08 UTC  

really

2018-11-25 12:32:26 UTC  

Like I have asked atleast 4 times, now a fifth

2018-11-25 12:32:39 UTC  

like i said i only started following this thing later on so idk what was said before

2018-11-25 12:32:43 UTC  

innocent until proven guilty. Weather its man or woman

2018-11-25 12:32:57 UTC  

At what point do we blame abusers, over the victim

2018-11-25 12:32:59 UTC  

Here is a simple formula I follow:

When it gets to the point that an NPC plays the "You just hate women." card, you simply declare yourself the winner and walk away.

You have pushed the NPC as far you can. It's a waste of time beyond that.

2018-11-25 12:33:15 UTC  

Undead told me straiight up, Its my moms fault for being abused by my dad for marrying him

2018-11-25 12:33:34 UTC  

Now, at what point is it not my moms fault?

2018-11-25 12:33:34 UTC  

I dont blame victims, but me just questioning a "victim" is now considered blaming the victim

2018-11-25 12:33:55 UTC  

sure she had some part of the blame, she shouldnt of stuck with him

2018-11-25 12:34:00 UTC  

That much is clear

2018-11-25 12:34:16 UTC  

but do we just say its her own fault, or do we punish my dad for what he did?

2018-11-25 12:34:41 UTC  

Like seriously, undeads argument says, that my dad should get off scott free

2018-11-25 12:34:59 UTC  

Right well

2018-11-25 12:35:15 UTC  

My stepdad was a psychopath

2018-11-25 12:35:23 UTC  

So, seriously at what point do we stop blaming the victims of ACTUAL abuse

2018-11-25 12:35:24 UTC  

im not gonna go into detail what he did

2018-11-25 12:35:46 UTC  

But i did blame my mother for not throwing him out after i told her about what he was doing for 5 years straight

2018-11-25 12:36:01 UTC  

But I can understand that

2018-11-25 12:36:15 UTC  

That is still different, should he get off scott free?

2018-11-25 12:36:19 UTC  

the answer is no

2018-11-25 12:36:23 UTC  

No but he did

2018-11-25 12:36:30 UTC  

because she never pressed charges

2018-11-25 12:36:34 UTC  

Sadly in the reverse it happens far more often

2018-11-25 12:36:35 UTC  

even tho there was AMPLE evidence

2018-11-25 12:36:49 UTC  

Undead is jealous that he cant get away with abusing his partner

2018-11-25 12:36:56 UTC  

but she can abuse him all she wants

2018-11-25 12:37:26 UTC  

Actually, let me shill a video.

2018-11-25 12:37:29 UTC  

Just for the lulz

2018-11-25 12:38:02 UTC  

well technically she can codes

2018-11-25 12:38:11 UTC  

Yeah, and I aint saying she cant

2018-11-25 12:38:12 UTC  

the treshhold for women is so much higher then men

2018-11-25 12:38:17 UTC  

Ill give an example