Message from @Drew West Press

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2018-12-02 01:09:32 UTC  

and you will argue suicidal people have the same narrow view. I dont see how you could argue that if by definition they have at least one option within their view which you dont and potentialy everything you do and more. @DrWittMDPhD

2018-12-02 01:09:33 UTC  

"he's a symbol of white rule"

2018-12-02 01:09:37 UTC  

and then it's like

2018-12-02 01:09:42 UTC  

"WHITE SUPREMACIST"

2018-12-02 01:10:17 UTC  

What do you mean by that last part

2018-12-02 01:10:18 UTC  

i should cross compare the articles

2018-12-02 01:10:20 UTC  

Idk what you're trying to get at

2018-12-02 01:10:31 UTC  

**he's a doctor**

2018-12-02 01:11:43 UTC  

By defintiion their "narrow view" includes the option of suicide and maybe everything and more as you have in your view as well. They may or may not have those other paths in their view, they probably do but they have at least one option in their view that you dont.

2018-12-02 01:12:27 UTC  

Im 20mins into episode one... and everyone so far has been white.... for shame poland... clearly racialists

2018-12-02 01:12:29 UTC  

No, the narrow view I'm talking about is the lens they view life. They are seeing life only that suicidal frame when they could possibly get out of that

2018-12-02 01:13:05 UTC  

They don't see the potential happiness that might come if they get help

2018-12-02 01:13:15 UTC  

Especially people that are under extreme stress in one situation

2018-12-02 01:13:29 UTC  

were you ever in that frame? Would you be surprised that most people that are in that frame have been in a frame where they arent suicidal and can remember that?

2018-12-02 01:13:32 UTC  

Their frame of mind is completely focused on one tragic or stressful thing

2018-12-02 01:13:56 UTC  

is this a sex joke?

2018-12-02 01:14:03 UTC  

thats... actualy not the case for people suffering clinical depression, at least for psychiatric reasons (which most of them are)

2018-12-02 01:14:06 UTC  

One of Joshua Nkhomo's nicknames: "Umafukufuku"

2018-12-02 01:14:18 UTC  

Manic periods aren't the same as being free of the burden of depression

2018-12-02 01:14:26 UTC  

They arent focussing on anything bad at all. They just *feel* a certain way

2018-12-02 01:14:40 UTC  

what is this

2018-12-02 01:14:42 UTC  

Also they aren't going to be considering suicide in a manic episode, only in that **temporary** depressive episode

2018-12-02 01:14:50 UTC  

I believe the end of a manic episode is actually a period where someone is much more likely to kill themselves.

2018-12-02 01:14:51 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD has a valid point. For me as someone who was suicidal and had depression cognitive behavioral therapy was the best way to cope with my depression.

2018-12-02 01:14:53 UTC  

are you...

2018-12-02 01:14:58 UTC  

Yes that feeling is the lens they live in during depressive periods

2018-12-02 01:15:01 UTC  

Saves them the trouble of actually getting to the depressive episode

2018-12-02 01:15:12 UTC  

okay why are manic episodes a topic? Depression was the topic what the heck does that have to do with mania?

2018-12-02 01:15:23 UTC  

depression isnt the same as being bipolar

2018-12-02 01:15:40 UTC  

Two sides of the same coin, I suppose is why it came up.

2018-12-02 01:15:54 UTC  

Idk you mentioned people that are periodically not depressed. Bipolar is one such example of people that are in a cycle

2018-12-02 01:16:12 UTC  

Bipolar has extreme highs and lows

2018-12-02 01:16:24 UTC  

But it is different to clinical depression

2018-12-02 01:16:45 UTC  

If you have phases of depression and normality, you aren't going to want to kill yourself in the normal phase. That suggests that the depressive phase is the temporary frame of mind that is causing suicidal thought

2018-12-02 01:16:55 UTC  

Not considering that they might go back into a normal phase

2018-12-02 01:18:35 UTC  

Oh Japan.... you had to go and make Rosie Palm Waifu.

2018-12-02 01:18:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/518596820885176333/45e5e3f801a6af47d6db44f65f8d9e0281842183_hq.png

2018-12-02 01:18:47 UTC  

I hate the East tbh

2018-12-02 01:19:02 UTC  

well, no, as ssuch a person i can tell you at least after the firstdepressive episode (which in my case lasted 1 year) i knew everytime it would go back to normal. I was never wanting to kill myself by the way, sure i thought about it but i didnt actualy plan to do it, but i wouldnt fault anyone for doing it for that reason. And during the first i knew it, too, its not hard to read up on all of that...

2018-12-02 01:20:02 UTC  

So you never wanted to kill yourself? Depression and't the same as depression + suicidal thoughts and desires

2018-12-02 01:20:16 UTC  

Though while i havent done it in... at least a decade... just like psychologists, i will defend "selfharming behaviour". Its a solid logical choice to inflict pain to your body *becouse* due to evolution thats seen as much more important by our brains than that, and its less severe, too.