Message from @Dusty Morgan
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hmm i see
undocumented persons would largely be illegals right?
yes.
Illegal, bordercrossing, nasty ass motherfucking parasite type of people
Then I am not wrong. >.>
I forgot about the other three.
oh ok
The charts make it pretty clear they're looking at very broad categories @Dusty Morgan
Still these are people who are not citizens and shouldn't be able to withdraw from it.
Yet they are...
There also looks to be a distinction between border states (CA, TX) and interior states (NY, FL).
No oversight or laws being enforced.
annyway, seems like these "non-citizzens" are a drain on the tax system, and need to get a job and/or get out of the country asap
I'm pretty sure permanent residents are very close to citizens for benefits, taxes and the like.
They get jobs... but they don't pay taxes because they are non-citizens.
Only tax they pay is sales tax and that is it.
That isn't enough to cover the drain they put on the system.
They don't have the franchise, but they do pay taxes, including income taxes and state taxes.
These are documented persons.
oh yeah, it also included people with visas, thats right...
They are documented, they are permanent and pay taxes, I am okay with them drawing.
Mostly all the article really says is that the usual argument "immigrants pay more into the welfare system than they take" is basically wrong.
They contribute to the system.
Same here. Permanent residents are very close to full citizens legally.
I know a couple who've been in the country for decades and are just waiting on the clock for full citizenship.
Paying taxes and everything else.
Then those people should be given the option.
They are going through legal means.
I am okay with that
how did they enter tho?
They entered legally.
ah ok, thats... better than entering illegally
1 out of the 4 non-citizens should be given the right for benefits and SSI, because they actually came here legally and are contributing.
The others should be denied access to it.
I am not cold hearted, I am willing to compromise on issues if it reasonable.
Now, if you want to start a flame war, the article indicates the usual mechanism by which welfare benefits for people who wouldn't otherwise qualify are received is via native-born children.
That's tying very closely with the "children aren't citizens" declaration right before the midterms.
But we should keep terms straight.
So anchor babies?