Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-12-04 05:16:45 UTC  

Clearly those people are Enemy Combatants in the War on Terror and must be dealt with by projectile devices.

2018-12-04 05:17:34 UTC  

@Aghost Dusty is incorrect. non-citizen is a very broad category including green cards, people on vias, permanent residents and undocumented persons.

2018-12-04 05:17:57 UTC  

People are considered non-citizens.

2018-12-04 05:18:17 UTC  

hmm i see

2018-12-04 05:18:32 UTC  

undocumented persons would largely be illegals right?

2018-12-04 05:18:46 UTC  

yes.

2018-12-04 05:18:57 UTC  

Illegal, bordercrossing, nasty ass motherfucking parasite type of people

2018-12-04 05:19:03 UTC  

Then I am not wrong. >.>

2018-12-04 05:19:11 UTC  

I forgot about the other three.

2018-12-04 05:19:12 UTC  

Let's not go that far. @Aghost

2018-12-04 05:19:23 UTC  

oh ok

2018-12-04 05:19:46 UTC  

The charts make it pretty clear they're looking at very broad categories @Dusty Morgan

2018-12-04 05:20:09 UTC  

Still these are people who are not citizens and shouldn't be able to withdraw from it.

2018-12-04 05:20:12 UTC  

Yet they are...

2018-12-04 05:20:18 UTC  

There also looks to be a distinction between border states (CA, TX) and interior states (NY, FL).

2018-12-04 05:20:18 UTC  

No oversight or laws being enforced.

2018-12-04 05:20:31 UTC  

annyway, seems like these "non-citizzens" are a drain on the tax system, and need to get a job and/or get out of the country asap

2018-12-04 05:20:43 UTC  

I'm pretty sure permanent residents are very close to citizens for benefits, taxes and the like.

2018-12-04 05:20:51 UTC  

They get jobs... but they don't pay taxes because they are non-citizens.

2018-12-04 05:20:57 UTC  

Only tax they pay is sales tax and that is it.

2018-12-04 05:21:05 UTC  

That isn't enough to cover the drain they put on the system.

2018-12-04 05:21:07 UTC  

They don't have the franchise, but they do pay taxes, including income taxes and state taxes.

2018-12-04 05:21:21 UTC  

These are documented persons.

2018-12-04 05:21:32 UTC  

Well if they are permanent, they should be allowed to draw.

2018-12-04 05:21:52 UTC  

oh yeah, it also included people with visas, thats right...

2018-12-04 05:21:58 UTC  

They are documented, they are permanent and pay taxes, I am okay with them drawing.

2018-12-04 05:22:03 UTC  

Mostly all the article really says is that the usual argument "immigrants pay more into the welfare system than they take" is basically wrong.

2018-12-04 05:22:21 UTC  

They contribute to the system.

2018-12-04 05:22:24 UTC  

Same here. Permanent residents are very close to full citizens legally.

2018-12-04 05:22:47 UTC  

I know a couple who've been in the country for decades and are just waiting on the clock for full citizenship.

2018-12-04 05:23:02 UTC  

Paying taxes and everything else.

2018-12-04 05:23:11 UTC  

Then those people should be given the option.

2018-12-04 05:23:14 UTC  

They are going through legal means.

2018-12-04 05:23:16 UTC  

I am okay with that

2018-12-04 05:23:23 UTC  

how did they enter tho?

2018-12-04 05:23:29 UTC  

They entered legally.

2018-12-04 05:24:18 UTC  

ah ok, thats... better than entering illegally

2018-12-04 05:24:47 UTC  

1 out of the 4 non-citizens should be given the right for benefits and SSI, because they actually came here legally and are contributing.

2018-12-04 05:24:52 UTC  

The others should be denied access to it.

2018-12-04 05:26:12 UTC  

I am not cold hearted, I am willing to compromise on issues if it reasonable.

2018-12-04 05:26:12 UTC  

Now, if you want to start a flame war, the article indicates the usual mechanism by which welfare benefits for people who wouldn't otherwise qualify are received is via native-born children.